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When are you looking to complete this by? It's a decent board, but if you're looking for a budget build, personally i'd save some money and go for one of the gigabyte lower end boards and use a single GPU. I've never been a huge fan of crossfire, you pay the same for each card, but only get x% of performance of the 2/3/4/etc card, plus more heat! Plus that card will play all the games out currently.

You're going to get better components for your computer if you hold off and buy everything at once rather then picking up a piece here and there (not sure if you just got the case/gpu on sale).
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post #12 of 58
Sick you say?

Might need some


Lol, anyways good luck on your build!
    
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Thanks!

I was wondering about that, but do I really need more RAM just for XP? Eventually I'm going to upgrade to 7, but not right away.

Also, another question:

I have Windows XP Pro OEM. I have heard mixed things on wether or not I can just buy the UPGRADE version of Windows 7 and use it on this. Is this possible?

BTW, thank you all for your suggestions, I need them!
Well here's the deal. You can't "Upgrade" per say from Windows XP to Windows 7. What it tells you to do is to backup everything you want to save on another HDD and then they have some Windows Backup Tool that's supposed to help as well but I'm not a real fan. I would just go ahead and install Windows 7 from the start. If the 790 series chipset is a bit over your budget, the 785G does support single card and is generally sub $100 and provides almost all the functionality of the 790 chipsets minus the crossfire ability. To be honest as well, if you don't opt to crossfire from the start, there's no reason to do it down the line as ATI will be releasing newer GPU's at the end of the year.

Also, you do tend to get better deals when you buy individually and shop around. Visit http://www.slickdeals.net and register and setup deal alerts for the general things you want and then when you see a deal that looks fantastic to you, go for it.

I got my Athlon II X4 630 for less than $100 shipped from eWiz on sale. I got my motherboard from Amazon (AMD gave me a $100 amazon gift card so not much I could do there). I got my case from eWiz for $20 shipped after the cost of selling my old case (it was free so nothing to make up) - the cost of the case there ($60). I got my CPU Cooler for $15 shipped from Mwave.com I got my PSU for $15 locally. If I had paid for everything all at once from one site, I would have paid so much more.
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Well here's the deal. You can't "Upgrade" per say from Windows XP to Windows 7. What it tells you to do is to backup everything you want to save on another HDD and then they have some Windows Backup Tool that's supposed to help as well but I'm not a real fan. I would just go ahead and install Windows 7 from the start. If the 790 series chipset is a bit over your budget, the 785G does support single card and is generally sub $100 and provides almost all the functionality of the 790 chipsets minus the crossfire ability. To be honest as well, if you don't opt to crossfire from the start, there's no reason to do it down the line as ATI will be releasing newer GPU's at the end of the year.
I found a MOBO on newegg with the 785G that I like. What do you think?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130237

It has DDR2 support (which I like) and it is sexy looking on top of everything. The best part of it is I could get it this week
    
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I'd spend 5-10 bucks more and get something with DDR3 support unless I already had DDR2 RAM
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post #16 of 58
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I'd spend 5-10 bucks more and get something with DDR3 support unless I already had DDR2 RAM
I really should consider this as many people have recommended that. I have no real dead line for completing the project though.

I was wondering what the performance gain over DDR2 there was? Besides clock speed
    
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As far as I'm aware with current stuff there's little practical gain. However, DDR3 is a newer technology and doesn't cost any more than DDR2 so you may as well have the extra bandwidth there for when something needs it.

Plus if in a year's time you want to upgrade again, it'll either be harder to find DDR2 to add to your system or you'll have to buy a new motherboard and new RAM. If you already have DDR3 odds are you'll be able to reuse it next go round.
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post #18 of 58
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I really should consider this as many people have recommended that. I have no real dead line for completing the project though.

I was wondering what the performance gain over DDR2 there was? Besides clock speed
+1 to what he said also, DDR3 uses less voltage which will save you more on your electricity bill

That board is decent but how about this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130247

It's essentially the same board except this one uses DDR3 RAM and also has 4 RAM slots instead of 2. It's $10 more though. However, if you're not in a rush, pretty soon eWiz.com should release another coupon and once they do, it should be cheaper over on their site.
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+1 to what he said also, DDR3 uses less voltage which will save you more on your electricity bill

That board is decent but how about this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130247

It's essentially the same board except this one uses DDR3 RAM and also has 4 RAM slots instead of 2. It's $10 more though. However, if you're not in a rush, pretty soon eWiz.com should release another coupon and once they do, it should be cheaper over on their site.
That looks great. I'm not really in a rush but I'm kinda itchy to have it!

Any PSU reccomendations for use with this MOBO and my other components? I probably will opt out of CFing.
    
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post #20 of 58
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That looks great. I'm not really in a rush but I'm kinda itchy to have it!

Any PSU reccomendations for use with this MOBO and my other components? I probably will opt out of CFing.
Let's see...too keep your budget friendly PC that way, I'd suggest the following PSU

OCZ GameXStream 700w for $39.99 + shipping

It's a refurb but it still comes with 1 year manufacturer warranty. I've got the same PSU. It's actually a very very decent PSU. The only issue with it that some people have is that closer you are to 700w of output, the more it ripples but I've not seen a review yet that shows it rippling out of ATX spec even when really hot. Also, I think there are a couple of good deals on some new OCZ PSU's if you like dealing with mail in rebates.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1862887

Just try searching through slickdeals, I think it was posted last week and might still be active for OCZ RAM and PSU.
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