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thats nice, i like this on better though! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128415
Who wouldn't? But at 14, $180 MOBO wasnt really in my budget.....

Besides, I just got done playing some HL2 and I can max EVERYTHING and still do 180+ fps!
    
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They haven't designed anything with a faulty core, as evidenced by the hundreds of quad core AMD chips in existence. What you are missing is the inherent nature of the silicone die manufacturing process coupled with the insanely intricate nature of computer chips.

The wafers the chips are made on are not defect free, and when you are manufacturing something with layers nanometers thick, this will mean that you will get some cores manufactured from one wafer that will not function as intended. It is the standard QC process that checks that the chip works that can identify whether a die is 100% functional or not.

It does not cost more to make all dies as quads, as that overlooks the huge cost of tooling up to make the dies in the first place. If you have to tool for a quad core chip, tri core, dual core and single core, you have instantly quadrupled your capital expenditure. And to top it off, there will still be a failure rate for each set of dies produced, so not all your quad core chips will work, nor will all the tri or dual core dies.

So it's much simpler to manufacture everything as quads, and then simply extend your QC process to bin processors on the number of functioning cores. After all, this is simply an extension of the way the manufacturing process has always worked. It used to be that everything was single core, and each die was rated for an achievable speed. If you can't sell a die at 1Ghz but it works fine at 800Mhz, you may as well still sell it. This is why slower processors are cheaper than the faster ones.
exactly.

nearly all microprocessors are manufactured like this. intel does this too, higher 'performing' cpus are the i7 975s and 'regular' performers are 920s. soemtimes the demand is too high for 920s and they have to use some of the 960 or 975 chips to meet the demand of the 920 since, after all, they are the same chip. the people that get these 'golden' 920s are very lucky.

GPUs do this too. higher performing chips that have all 1600 shader processors working correctly are labeled 5870s while some chips that have a few faulty SP cores are labeled as the 5850 with 1440 cores.

its much easier/cheaper to make one chip and just run a quick test on it than to make separate chips for everything.
    
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Just overclocked the Rig to 3.6 GHz. Yet to Torture Test it for stability. Thus-far, my unlocking attempts have proved quite unsuccessful, require a CMOS defaulting almost every run........ well, on a stock Heatsink and Fan I'm still managing ~38c Idle and ~ 49c Under Load. PRETTY GOOD. I'll let u guys know about the stability test tomorrow!

Edited by iAmOnTheMo0n - 3/20/10 at 9:38pm
    
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The 600W will do you fine. A decent one can run a CPU at 3.8 AND a 5770 quite nicely.

BUT make sure you dont skimp out on the psu. If you take any advice, take that. If you buy a ****ty one such as a logisys...you WILL regret it.

youl be thinking, after your $1500 rig goes up in smoke.....was it really worth saving the $50?

Buy a coolermaster.

Ignore my Sig rig. Not my main rig
    
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Well. Under MAXIMUM LOAD for 2 hours my CPU came in HOT at 61c. I think that a little much. Can't decide if I should back it down or just get a aftermarket heatsink and fan.....
Edited by iAmOnTheMo0n - 3/20/10 at 11:08pm
    
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I got my AM3 CrossfireX Mobo for $80.
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HP OMEN Z4D33AA 27" 1440p 165Hz 1MS G-Sync Razer BlackWidow Ultimate  OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W XClio Windtunnel 
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Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable  Razer Goliathus 444mm x 355mm - Speed Edition ... 
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Hey OP! Gonna be a great build I just realized that you sighed me hahah, nice
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post #58 of 58
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Hey OP! Gonna be a great build I just realized that you sighed me hahah, nice
Um the build is done man. I am just having some follow up questions right now.
    
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