Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Cooling Experiments › 12 Feet Under: 1000 Square Feet of Geothermal PC Cooling
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

12 Feet Under: 1000 Square Feet of Geothermal PC Cooling  

post #1 of 340
Thread Starter 
Live 1400 watt heat dump test. Blue = Water in, Red = Water out, Green = Soil temperature.



** Updates **

Album of the ground heat exchanger dig

Update 35, 3-19: Line charts of the first 48 hours of testing
Update 34, 3-18: Finished heat stick picture and kill-a-watt readings
Update 33, 3-17: Start of the heat dump test
Update 32, 3-13: Flow testing. Many pictures.
Update 31, 3-11: 480 radiator "air conditioning" test. Picture.
Update 30, 3-9: Insulated, trimmed, and buried the return/supply piping, pictures
Update 29, 3-8: Couple comments and link to the dig album
Update 28, 3-7: Switched to Furmark on a 1.3v 5970. No saturation 80 minutes later with it either.
Update 27, 3-7: Stock 920 temperature test. No ground saturation.
Update 26, 3-7: Geothermal trench dug! Two pictures.
Update 25, 3-6: Installed PSI gauge and cleaned filter, pictures. Final update before the dig.
Update 24, 3-5: Finished* geothermal coil pictures. T minus 2 days?
Update 23, 3-4: 1-wire monitoring component pictures. T minus 3 days?
Update 22, 3-3: Two days of pictures. T minus 4 days?
Update 21, 3-1: Geothermal piping coiling finished, pictures. Status update
Update 20, 2-28: Minute leak picture on offline video card
Update 19, 2-28: House section of the loop quick simulation test, picture
Update 18, 2-27: Semi-finished utility closet picture
Update 17, 2-27: Daily update, drilled utility closet holes, pictures
Update 16, 2-26: More purchases, temperature probes arrive, pictures
Update 15, 2-25: Daily update, huge purchase picture and head exchanger
Update 14, 2-24: Daily update
Update 13, 2-23: Some answered points
Update 12, 2-23: Ordered insulation, to be bottleneck
Update 11, 2-22: Assembling the PVC res, pictures
Update 10: Couple questions and pricing info
Update 09: Couple questions
Update 08: Ditch witch return/supply trench, pictures
Update 07: Temperature sensor and monitoring talk
Update 06: Straightening the coil (don't do this)
Update 05: Pump, flow meter, and filter in hand, picture
Update 04: Loop volume
Update 03: Some Q&As
Update 02: Piping arrives and excavator pictures
Update 01: "How deep?"

ORIGINAL POST:

After a couple of years of wanting to do a deep geothermal cooling loop everything has come together to make it a reality. I kept convincing myself I I could settle with a few giant radiators and a huge case but this project's components are actually quite a bit cheaper. The 300 feet of geothermal pipe coil and the Iwaki pump together were less than a 560mm SR-1 radiator for example.

All the major components are already on the way or already here, and the excavator is nearby and ready to go. However, the continued wet weather will most likely delay digging the trench until it stops raining or snowing twice a week. This will make a big enough mess in my yard and the hill my house is on as is.

I also need to order the 1-wire temperature components and wired pulse flow water meter to gauge the effectiveness of this project. Some extra time to get that all planned, wired, and programmed before digging will be helpful.

Logging and testing the cooling capacity year round will be where most of the fun is at in the end. For example, I'm interested in seeing if the loop temperature changes while going down to and from the trench coils. Black PE pipe insulation and strips of blue foam will be used on all the exposed and shallower buried piping to keep as much of the outside ambient temperature changes from affecting the loop. The whole point is to capture the deep grounds relatively steady temperature year round. Letting it get too cool in the winter, or too warm in the summer defeats that.

The current loop layout is described in the following image. The ground loop coils aren't shown at the bottom but the text explains them. Google geothermal coil loops if you don't know what they look like installed in a trench. They're a bit hard to draw pixel by pixel.




I'm conveniently located in Virginia whose seasonal ground temperatures are depicted in this image.



My big unknown is how my much my sites location on top of a deep natural well affect the temperatures. If I delay the digging I can jam pipes deep down with temperature sensors but in the end I'm limited in site location. The drain field, septic tank, and utility wires occupy three sides of the house. The last side is a 15 foot hill. Digging at the top should result in well drained soil, but would cause erosion.

Eventually I might separate the geothermal loop from the PC(s) and instead cool them through copper coils in another tube reservoir. It'll depend on how much restriction I have. For now the simplest way to start is to have one PC directly in the loop as pictured and measure the flow with my king instrument flow meter.

I'll then add more blocks to the loop to see how much flow would be lost from hooking up additional computers in-line. Going parallel with ball valves to control the amounts of flow to each PC is also an option. Each block in the main PC could also be hooked up in a parallel fashion with quick disconnects as well. That way a restrictive (chipset) block wouldn't kill the flow for the others.

The long tube res also makes it simple to dump more heat into the loop through an inexpensive high wattage aquarium heater. If the cooling capacity is as good as I think it will be, I'll need to do more than one to saturate the loops cooling capacity. Live 1-wire logging of this will be GREAT.

300 feet of 3/4" ID geothermal HDPE SDR11 pipe. 3/4" is the sweet spot for price, head loss, and flexibility. Moving to 1" ID wouldn't increase this pumps flow rate much and the increased wall thickness nearly negates the extra cooling surface. This coil has an OD of 1.05 inches or a total surface area of 990 square feet. The amount of soil contact and its temperature is much more important than the thermal conductivity of the material.

Copper has ten times the thermal conductivity of HDPE but its still limited by the soils capacity to remove the heat. 3/4" ID type L copper also costs 10x more, before freight! Going to down to an exact 1/2" ID from this pipes .86 would also increase the head pressure loss from 16 to 160 feet of head pressure. That all made HDPE the only effective choice and cemented the go big or go home aspect of this project.




To overcome the tubing's friction loss a suitable pumped designed for high pressure had to be found. Luckily surplus Iwaki MD-30RZT pumps available for less than $125 shipped. They have a perfect PQ curve for this project and aren't too thirsty with power requirements at 1 amp max. Look at all of that restriction busting head pressure! I've calculated that half of it will be used to overcome my HDPE pipe's friction and vertical rise. That still leaves 18 feet of theoretical head pressure at 4gpm for the water blocks. That's twelve times more head pressure than a DDC 3.2 at 4gpm.




The 3" PVC tube reservoir (some hack sawing and PVC cement required).



The pump should arrive Friday and the piping should have already been delivered. Unless FedEx lost it in Hagerstown, I'll try to test a simulated loop this weekend. The pump will go upstairs and the coiled pipe will sit outside at the ground level to simulate the trench depth. The flow meter results will be enlightening. I have spare quick disconnects sitting around so I can easily throw in a few blocks or even hook the loop up to my PC and test the indoor ambient cooling while waiting for improved weather. Stay tuned, that's future update material for sure.
Edited by Romir - 3/19/10 at 6:56pm
post #2 of 340
You Sir, have my rapt attention.
Flux
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600K GA-P67A-UD7 GTX 580 2 x 2GB Corsair 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
C300 (OS), Velociraptor (storage) Lite-On W7 64-bit Pro Samsung 275T 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Black Widow Ult. Silverstone DA750 Lian Li T60 R.A.T. 7 
Mouse Pad
Q-Pad 
  hide details  
Flux
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600K GA-P67A-UD7 GTX 580 2 x 2GB Corsair 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
C300 (OS), Velociraptor (storage) Lite-On W7 64-bit Pro Samsung 275T 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Black Widow Ult. Silverstone DA750 Lian Li T60 R.A.T. 7 
Mouse Pad
Q-Pad 
  hide details  
post #3 of 340
Holy Jeezy.
post #4 of 340
SUBBBBEEDD'd. 300 ft of geothermal cooling , Might as well call it Teh Ultimate Win.!.
post #5 of 340
This has got to be one of the best experiments I have ever seen...
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E7200 M0 [3.6GHZ @ 1.392v] GA-EP43-DS3L EVGA 9600GT Corsair XMS2 4GB [4-4-4-12 @ 2.1V] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD Cavier 640GB Blue Windows 7 Professional x64 Acer X193Wb 19" some lite-on keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 750TX Antec 900[drilled holes] MX518 SteelSeries QcK 
  hide details  
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E7200 M0 [3.6GHZ @ 1.392v] GA-EP43-DS3L EVGA 9600GT Corsair XMS2 4GB [4-4-4-12 @ 2.1V] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
WD Cavier 640GB Blue Windows 7 Professional x64 Acer X193Wb 19" some lite-on keyboard 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair 750TX Antec 900[drilled holes] MX518 SteelSeries QcK 
  hide details  
post #6 of 340
Epic.

Subbed
post #7 of 340
Subscibed!
Bench Stuffs
(32 items)
 
ITX Daily Driver
(11 items)
 
For Sale: 6GHz+ 980X
$225 (USD) or best offer
CPUCPUCPUCPU
Intel Core i7 920 Intel Xeon W3520 Intel Core i7 4770K Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 
CPUCPUCPUCPU
Intel Pentium G3258 Intel QX9650 AMD FX 4300 Intel E2140 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
E4300 Asus Rampage Extreme / P5E3 Deluxe / Gigabyte X... MSI GTX 275 Lightning MSI HD 7970 Lightning 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
Asus GTX 285 Matrix Platinum MSI HD 5870 Lightning EVGA GTX 980 TI Classified K|ngp|n Edition MSI GTX 580 Lightning 
RAMRAMRAMRAM
Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666 10-12-12 Samsung Corsair Dominator GT 2000 7-8-7 Hypers Kingston HyperX 2000 9-9-9 BBSE G.Skill Trident 2000 9-9-9 PSC 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Kingston SSD Now! 128GB Patriot Torqx 2 32GB Seagate 80GB XPSC Rasa + EK VGA + HWLabs Black Ice GTX 360 +... 
OSOSOSKeyboard
W7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP x86 SP3 W8.1 Ducky Shine 3, Cherry Brown Switches 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX1200 Dimastech Easy V2.5! <3 Logitech G5 Battlefield 2142 Edition Puretrak Stealth 
  hide details  
Bench Stuffs
(32 items)
 
ITX Daily Driver
(11 items)
 
For Sale: 6GHz+ 980X
$225 (USD) or best offer
CPUCPUCPUCPU
Intel Core i7 920 Intel Xeon W3520 Intel Core i7 4770K Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 
CPUCPUCPUCPU
Intel Pentium G3258 Intel QX9650 AMD FX 4300 Intel E2140 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
E4300 Asus Rampage Extreme / P5E3 Deluxe / Gigabyte X... MSI GTX 275 Lightning MSI HD 7970 Lightning 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
Asus GTX 285 Matrix Platinum MSI HD 5870 Lightning EVGA GTX 980 TI Classified K|ngp|n Edition MSI GTX 580 Lightning 
RAMRAMRAMRAM
Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666 10-12-12 Samsung Corsair Dominator GT 2000 7-8-7 Hypers Kingston HyperX 2000 9-9-9 BBSE G.Skill Trident 2000 9-9-9 PSC 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Kingston SSD Now! 128GB Patriot Torqx 2 32GB Seagate 80GB XPSC Rasa + EK VGA + HWLabs Black Ice GTX 360 +... 
OSOSOSKeyboard
W7 Pro x64 SP1 Windows XP x86 SP3 W8.1 Ducky Shine 3, Cherry Brown Switches 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX1200 Dimastech Easy V2.5! <3 Logitech G5 Battlefield 2142 Edition Puretrak Stealth 
  hide details  
post #8 of 340
Sub'd!!!!
Betsy 2.1
(17 items)
 
Lappy
(7 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 8350 @ 4.7 Gigabyte 970A-UD3 Gigabyte 290x OC 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB Samsung 840 SSD XSPC rasa EX360 Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 29UM67P Corsair K70 Corsair HX750 Corsair 600tse 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G9x Steelseries Steelseries Siberia V2 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i5-2450m gt540m 6gb 300gb 
CoolingOSKeyboard
stock Windows 7 stock backlit 
  hide details  
Betsy 2.1
(17 items)
 
Lappy
(7 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 8350 @ 4.7 Gigabyte 970A-UD3 Gigabyte 290x OC 8gb DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung Spinpoint 1TB Samsung 840 SSD XSPC rasa EX360 Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 29UM67P Corsair K70 Corsair HX750 Corsair 600tse 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G9x Steelseries Steelseries Siberia V2 
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
i5-2450m gt540m 6gb 300gb 
CoolingOSKeyboard
stock Windows 7 stock backlit 
  hide details  
post #9 of 340
Impressive would be an understatement. Sub'd.
Asus G53SW-XN1
(14 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i7-2630QM GTX460M G.Skill DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD 
OSMonitorKeyboardMouse
Windows 7 Professional x64 Samsung BX2331 Logitech K270 Logitech M510 
Audio
Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 
  hide details  
Asus G53SW-XN1
(14 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Core i7-2630QM GTX460M G.Skill DDR3 1333MHz OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD 
OSMonitorKeyboardMouse
Windows 7 Professional x64 Samsung BX2331 Logitech K270 Logitech M510 
Audio
Cyber Acoustics CA-3602 
  hide details  
post #10 of 340
This
Is
WIN!!!!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Cooling Experiments
This thread is locked  
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Cooling Experiments › 12 Feet Under: 1000 Square Feet of Geothermal PC Cooling