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I'm new to all this and I posted this on another overclocking site and didn't get any responses. Then I found Overclocking.net -- during my brief lurking it seems to be better suited for me, so I thought I'd cross-post this here (apologizes for the dup to anyone who reads both forums).

Here is my current (budget) configuration:

Gigabyte GA-8I848P-G Intel 848P ATX
2 x 512MB Infineon (i.e., generic) PC2700
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz (Northwood) - D1
Sapphire ATI 9600PRO 256MB AGP (overclocked)
Toshiba 7200RPM 80GB IDE HD
500W Aspire Power Supply

I'm on a tight budget, so some of this was made up of lots of leftover/budget components. Anyway, I thought I'd try to overclock it since it was already a bit underpowered for gaming. I was happy to see that although I couldn't tighten the memory timings much, I could easily get the FSB up to 166 and well beyond in fact, but heat quickly became an issue. Prime95 runs got the CPU up to 50 in 7 minutes and as high as 60 within 30 minutes.

Following advice found searching OC forums, I picked up some case fans but have had less than stellar results. I feel like I'm working in the dark here, so I'm going to just list what I've done and hope someone can give me some feedback as to what my next steps should be (warning: I'm doing all this on the cheap, so this might be a bit distasteful to some of the elite OC'ers out there):

* Replaced the thermal paste on the CPU with a silver paste borrowed from a friend (don't think it's Artic Silver - probably a generic knock-off). I'm still using the stock CPU heatsink.
* Bought a generic 92mm CompUSA thermal fan and installed it as an exhaust fan right below the PSU. The variable speed function doesn't seem to work (always runs around 1450RPM) and it doesn't seem to blow much air out the back (the PSU fan blows more) but it sure is quiet.
* Bought a second 80mm CompUSA fan and put it in the front bottom as intake. Good airflow coming in the bottom, but now my system sounds like it's getting ready to take off. It's really too loud -- I need something reasonably quiet since the system is in the family room.
* Cut out the perforated fan cover off the back of the system (per the sticky). Didn't seem to help much.
* Cleaned up the cabling (there's only two cards in the box other than my video card so it's fairly empty).

Seeing as how this is just a temporary solution until I can upgrade to a more recent system, I don't want to invest a lot of money. However, I guess some of these items (e.g., case fans) could be used in any future system I create. I'm just not sure where to start...
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post #2 of 9
gday mate , welcome to the forum, you will enjoy it here fill out ya specs under user cp at the top of the page then we can all go from there.
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Case fans are all well and good, but you need a good HEATSINK & FAN combo. That is the _most_ important part, afterwhich you need case fans to feed it air, and etc. This heatsink is good (one of the best) and cheap. stop buying crap fans from compusa, look at the CFM/dB rating. for the XP-90 is suggest a fan thats 70CFM which for a 92mm fan isn't that bad (sound wise)
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gday mate , welcome to the forum, you will enjoy it here
Thanks for the welcome!
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fill out ya specs under user cp at the top of the page then we can all go from there.
Ah, sorry about that -- I finally found the option to do it.
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post #5 of 9
welcome and for your heat, like they said above case fans help some, but a good heatsink and fan will solve your problems... i suggets th Tt big typhoon, said to the THE best air cooler out on the market...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106061

and here is some help for getting better air flow inside your pc case...just take a quick look through it
http://www.overclock.net/other-cooli...-1-inside.html
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post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by pbasil1
welcome and for your heat, like they said above case fans help some, but a good heatsink and fan will solve your problems... i suggets th Tt big typhoon, said to the THE best air cooler out on the market...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106061

and here is some help for getting better air flow inside your pc case...just take a quick look through it
http://www.overclock.net/other-cooli...-1-inside.html
Thanks for the tips! While waiting for responses, I read some other threads that recommended the Big Typhoon as well, so I'm definitely leaning towards that route.

However, that thing is BIG! I'm a little concerned about two things:

1) How do I know if it will it fit on my mobo? I saw someone else saying that particular versions of the Gigabyte boards won't take the typhoon.

2) The fan looks almost like a case fan -- do you mod your case to install this? Or does the whole unit fit inside your case? Since it's so tall, it looks like it might come close to the side panel, which seems like it would restrict airflow (or maybe it just looks bigger in the pix than it really is).
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post #7 of 9
it fits in most cases, it just simply bolts on with the supplied mounting hardways, it will fit,space wise, aslong as there is nothing directly above your cpu(such as a PSU), and the fitment issues wioth some gigabyte boards it the space from the little resistors on the motherboard right next to the cpu might hit the heatpipes on the cooler when u try to mount it
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post #8 of 9
ok ive loked all over google and i cqant find an any thing really saying it wont fit on any boards, except for an abit board,which u dont have...so you should be fine
PS:its on sale at www.Xoxide.com grab it while u can!
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post #9 of 9
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Originally Posted by pbasil1
ok ive loked all over google and i cqant find an any thing really saying it wont fit on any boards, except for an abit board,which u dont have...so you should be fine
Here's the issue I saw mentioned:
If you want to install on a gigabyte (I have a k8ns ultra) you will need a standard backing plate about 8 bucks also if you want to install on a DFI board you will need a backing plate too or longer screws than the ones supplied I have install on both boards. Both the DFI and gigabyte use a non standard type of backing plate.
Where you get this backing plate or what it is, I have no idea. He posted a link, but it's now dead.

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PS:its on sale at www.Xoxide.com grab it while u can!
Nice! However, I have a $50 gift certificate for Amazon, so I think I'll end up ordering it there: $58.99 - $50 = $8.99 to me.
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