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post #11 of 26
If your goal is only 3.2 Ghz, no need to pay $81 for cooling.
How about a Xigmatek Dark Knight or Scythe Mugen 2 for about $46? Those can even get you to 4Ghz if need be.

You're willing to fork out ~$200 (plus the moeny saved from dumping the H50), try looking at Kingston's new 128GB SSD with TRIM support for your OS and Programs
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820139137
Edited by PowerTrip - 2/23/10 at 10:35pm
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post #12 of 26
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And looks like I will be going for the G15/G500, I have the old version of the G15 and the G7 so I know they are good. Thanks for that guys =).

Some more questions now.. Will the HX/TX650 be able to support 2xHD5850's if I added them in the future?

And how great is the benefit of having a Raid 0? Does it count 2x1TB in Raid 0 as 1TB? I'm a noob at harddrives.

What are some recommended sites to find the i7 930?

And the reason for the overkill on the cooler is my brother(who is paying for this machine) is quite concerned about killing the CPU with heat and is most comfortable with the H50. I've also heard great things about it plus the extra space for the RAM is cool.

Thank you guys very much for the suggestions! Sorry for the barrage of questions.

EDIT: I am really interested in SSD's, but I have heard a lot about degradation of the drives and other problems which I am unsure if they have been solved in newer SSD's.
post #13 of 26
RAID 0 is a trade off really. You get increased speed vs increased chance of data loss. 2 x 1tb drives will still be 2tb of space in raid 0 unless you short stroke it (which means you reduce the volume size considerably for added performance)

I would say stick with the 920, if all you are gonna hit is 3.2ghz then you would just be spending extra dough for nothing.
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post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by ejams View Post
And looks like I will be going for the G15/G500, I have the old version of the G15 and the G7 so I know they are good. Thanks for that guys =).

Some more questions now.. Will the HX/TX650 be able to support 2xHD5850's if I added them in the future?

650 might be possible but you're pushing your PSU load = more heat. 850 is being on the safe side for crossfire. 750 minimum I would say.

And how great is the benefit of having a Raid 0? Does it count 2x1TB in Raid 0 as 1TB? I'm a noob at harddrives.

answered above

What are some recommended sites to find the i7 930?

they're not officially out yet, but fry's are selling them at their stores. check a frys near you. But since you're not O/C too much I would suggest microcenter if its near you. they have 920's for sale at 199 bucks. cant beat that anywhere.

And the reason for the overkill on the cooler is my brother(who is paying for this machine) is quite concerned about killing the CPU with heat and is most comfortable with the H50. I've also heard great things about it plus the extra space for the RAM is cool.

Thank you guys very much for the suggestions! Sorry for the barrage of questions.

EDIT: I am really interested in SSD's, but I have heard a lot about degradation of the drives and other problems which I am unsure if they have been solved in newer SSD's.

intel will be releasing their next gen SSD's later this year, pricing will drop significantly as well. (roughly current 80gig price = 160g in future) if you can wait that long, sure. if you cant wait, intels X-25M G2 are still the best. However there is a new OCZ SSD thats supposed to be awesome.. haven't kept up with SSD's so you'll have to look into it.

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TRIM command allows an operating system to tell a solid-state drive (or "SSD") which data blocks are no longer in use, such as those left by deleted files. An OS operation such as delete generally only means the data blocks involved are flagged as not in use. TRIM allows the OS to pass this information on down to the SSD controller, which otherwise would not know it could trash those blocks.

The purpose of the instruction is to maintain the speed of the SSD throughout its lifespan, avoiding the slowdown that early models encountered once all of the cells had been written to once.

-Source
Click the source link for a few more details.


Also, I calculated your build with crossfired 5850's and even added 2 HDD's, an SSD, 2 cold cathodes, 4 fans of different sizes, fan controller, usb device, firewire, Card reader, and an overclock of 3.2Ghz@1.3v. It came out to 550w so an HX 650 would be more than enough.
The new 5800 ATI cards are really efficient in power consumption.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
Edited by PowerTrip - 2/24/10 at 5:12am
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post #16 of 26
According to a french hardware website:
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The 5850 seems to draw about 20 watts at idle and about 130-150 watts at full load. So two 5850's would pull around 300 watts max. The i7-920 pulls around 200 watts at load, stock. Im not sure how much more is added from overclocking but im going to assume another 50-100 watts. So 300+300 would equal 600 plus all your other components and you would be pushing 650 at full load, I believe. Which isn't really a problem if you use a good, efficient, and reliable power supply like one from seasonic or corsair.
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post #17 of 26
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get a g15 and a g500 (g19 costs too much, imho), and I'd try to find a i7 930 for about the same price, even if it requires shopping around, why not right?
I've played around with two i7 930s and will be sticking with my i7 920 D0.. The 920 clocks soooo much better.... At least on my board..
post #18 of 26
Your build looks very solid. Two things I would change. One is a WD Caviar Black over the Samsung you chose. No facts to back that up, just my personal preference and I've had a bad history with Samsung drives. Two is, if your building a rig nearing 2k, I'd go with a 5870 over a 5850. I know the thread has created several discussions over your graphic solution, I'm just going off your OP.
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post #19 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thank you guys so much for the input, I'll be finding some reviews on the Samsung F3 1TB and the WD Caviar Black 1TB, and will check out Raid 0 in more detail as well.(As well as SSD)

I will be going with the i7 920 for sure, how do I make sure I am getting a D0 stepping? I got lucky with my E6750.

Anyone have a clue on how good the on board audio card is for the Asus P9T Deluxe v2?

I'll ask my brother if he will fork out another ~120 bucks for the 5870, he wants the best of the best for under $2000 but I'm sure he won't mind a little bit over =P.

Last question.. of this post! What are some good/non-bias(semi bias okay =P)/trustworthy review sites to check out all my choices on? I know Tom's Hardware, I love OklahomaWolf's PSU reviews, what else?

EDIT: My brother wants a couple for days of feedback on all the parts and for me to read reviews before he buys the parts. So expect a new thread in a week(or more depending on delivery =() with pictures!
Edited by ejams - 2/25/10 at 2:29pm
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Check Egg Ratings on Newegg.
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