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Eh I've tried that with my DVDs, but I barely saw a difference. I mean, the picture in general looks a bit sharper - like people's hair in a closeup. But it still can't really add information that wasn't there to begin with.
PowerDVD 8 has that same option menu. Didn't ahve it turned on when I played a DVD and it still looked fine. It's DVD though. Big Difference from BR Discs.... Still a good option to have. I think that with the mix of a 5xxx series card and PowerDVD 8+ it would make a good combo!
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PowerDVD 8 has that same option menu. Didn't ahve it turned on when I played a DVD and it still looked fine. It's DVD though. Big Difference from BR Discs.... Still a good option to have. I think that with the mix of a 5xxx series card and PowerDVD 8+ it would make a good combo!
If you really want to enjoy your DVDs, get a Sony Trinitron TV. They still look better on them than when upscaled on LCDs/Plasmas.
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post #43 of 54
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If you really want to enjoy your DVDs, get a Sony Trinitron TV. They still look better on them than when upscaled on LCDs/Plasmas.
Well I don't think that's the truth. I don't even really watch SD DVD's anymore anyhow. We switched mainly over to Blu-Ray and only get Blu-Rays through Netflix for the last 2 years..... But when I do I pop them in the Pioneer BD-320 that we have it actually does upscale them quite nicely! ZBut then again, with the added 120hz Motion plus processing, it aids in overall smoothness of the video.

I don't like sony products. Haven't for some time. Sony built up such a name for themselves from their past, the quality of their products has gone down in my opinion. Especially with their TV's. JMO though.

P.S. Have you ever watched a Sammy With the 120Hz Motion Plus Technology?
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Well I don't think that's the truth. I don't even really watch SD DVD's anymore anyhow. We switched mainly over to Blu-Ray and only get Blu-Rays through Netflix for the last 2 years..... But when I do I pop them in the Pioneer BD-320 that we have it actually does upscale them quite nicely! ZBut then again, with the added 120hz Motion plus processing, it aids in overall smoothness of the video.

I don't like sony products. Haven't for some time. Sony built up such a name for themselves from their past, the quality of their products has gone down in my opinion. Especially with their TV's. JMO though.
Oh, you're one of those that likes 120Hz processing....lol. I can't stand that crap, it makes it look like it was recorded through a handycam on VHS-C tapes. Makes me feel like I'm watching a 5 year old kid's birthday party, not a movie.

Sony's best quality came from their CRTs. Most of the best CRTs that were ever made - both progressive scan and interlaced - were made by Sony. And I still stand by my statement that their CRTs make DVDs look better than any LCD or Plasma with any sort of upscaling that you want.

And I watch pretty much only blurays too, but we're not comparing DVDs to bluray here, we're only comparing DVDs to themselves.
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I finally got the HTPC hooked up to my TV (which is a Trinitron CRT by the way), but I had a hard time getting the resolution set correctly. I went through a help window to set the resolution, I chose the CRT route and it recommends a resolution (can't remember the number) that when applied, is widescreen (which my CRT is not) and I can't read anything on the desktop. I finally had to bring the resolution way down so I could see the whole desktop. Even now when I open a window, I can't see the very bottom of it. I made some changes in the iMon window for the remote that came with my Antec case, but was unable to apply them as I can't get to the bottom of the window. Frustrating!

On that note, the remote doesn't seem to be working the same as it did a few days ago. When I use the thumb knob that moves the mouse cursor around, it's very choppy and unresponsive at times. I'll have to open the case and see if the wire loosened up or maybe the batteries are dying (even though I've only had them for a week). Other than that, I'm not sure what is going on with it.
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Oh, you're one of those that likes 120Hz processing....lol. I can't stand that crap, it makes it look like it was recorded through a handycam on VHS-C tapes. Makes me feel like I'm watching a 5 year old kid's birthday party, not a movie.

Sony's best quality came from their CRTs. Most of the best CRTs that were ever made - both progressive scan and interlaced - were made by Sony. And I still stand by my statement that their CRTs make DVDs look better than any LCD or Plasma with any sort of upscaling that you want.

And I watch pretty much only blurays too, but we're not comparing DVDs to bluray here, we're only comparing DVDs to themselves.
It literally took me about 3 days to get used to it! It was so life like that I couldn't even concentrate on the movie. LOL I felt like I was right there in the filming studio! I do like it! A lot! It's amazing technology! YOu have to admit!

But watching Blu-Ray on a TV without it Seriously makes my head hurt! The Trailing, in retrospect, is ridiculous! I can't believe that I ever liked watching movies without it! I don't think that I would compare it to "watching a 5yo's B-day party" though. More like life like HD! It shows every little movement and it's so SMOOTH onec your eye's get used to it!

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I finally got the HTPC hooked up to my TV (which is a Trinitron CRT by the way), but I had a hard time getting the resolution set correctly. I went through a help window to set the resolution, I chose the CRT route and it recommends a resolution (can't remember the number) that when applied, is widescreen (which my CRT is not) and I can't read anything on the desktop. I finally had to bring the resolution way down so I could see the whole desktop. Even now when I open a window, I can't see the very bottom of it. I made some changes in the iMon window for the remote that came with my Antec case, but was unable to apply them as I can't get to the bottom of the window. Frustrating!

On that note, the remote doesn't seem to be working the same as it did a few days ago. When I use the thumb knob that moves the mouse cursor around, it's very choppy and unresponsive at times. I'll have to open the case and see if the wire loosened up or maybe the batteries are dying (even though I've only had them for a week). Other than that, I'm not sure what is going on with it.
DId you try setting the "Image Scaling" settings? Normally if you select "Enable GPU scaling" and select "Scale Image to Full Panel Size" that will snap the Desktop to the edges of the Screen!

Batteries would be my first guess in the remote. Being that it worked a few days ago... Are you within the alloted working Distance Range?
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I finally got the HTPC hooked up to my TV (which is a Trinitron CRT by the way), but I had a hard time getting the resolution set correctly. I went through a help window to set the resolution, I chose the CRT route and it recommends a resolution (can't remember the number) that when applied, is widescreen (which my CRT is not) and I can't read anything on the desktop. I finally had to bring the resolution way down so I could see the whole desktop. Even now when I open a window, I can't see the very bottom of it. I made some changes in the iMon window for the remote that came with my Antec case, but was unable to apply them as I can't get to the bottom of the window. Frustrating!

On that note, the remote doesn't seem to be working the same as it did a few days ago. When I use the thumb knob that moves the mouse cursor around, it's very choppy and unresponsive at times. I'll have to open the case and see if the wire loosened up or maybe the batteries are dying (even though I've only had them for a week). Other than that, I'm not sure what is going on with it.
That's because CRT TVs are all 640x480 - standard VGA res. However, if you pick up a VGA->Composite converter box, you can usually get it up to 1024x768 at least. And if the TV is an HDTV and accepts a 1080i input over component, you can use that too.


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It literally took me about 3 days to get used to it! It was so life like that I couldn't even concentrate on the movie. LOL I felt like I was right there in the filming studio! I do like it! A lot! It's amazing technology! YOu have to admit!

But watching Blu-Ray on a TV without it Seriously makes my head hurt! The Trailing, in retrospect, is ridiculous! I can't believe that I ever liked watching movies without it! I don't think that I would compare it to "watching a 5yo's B-day party" though. More like life like HD! It shows every little movement and it's so SMOOTH onec your eye's get used to it!

DId you try setting the "Image Scaling" settings? Normally if you select "Enable GPU scaling" and select "Scale Image to Full Panel Size" that will snap the Desktop to the edges of the Screen!

Batteries would be my first guess in the remote. Being that it worked a few days ago... Are you within the alloted working Distance Range?
lol I absolutely hate 120Hz smooth motion. Even normal life isn't like it, because when you move your eyes you're actually blind for a split second - which is what happens with fast motion in standard 24FPS video. Even if I had an LCD I wouldn't use it.
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That's because CRT TVs are all 640x480 - standard VGA res. However, if you pick up a VGA->Composite converter box, you can usually get it up to 1024x768 at least. And if the TV is an HDTV and accepts a 1080i input over component, you can use that too.

lol I absolutely hate 120Hz smooth motion. Even normal life isn't like it, because when you move your eyes you're actually blind for a split second - which is what happens with fast motion in standard 24FPS video. Even if I had an LCD I wouldn't use it.
Whaaaaat? No you don't go blind for a "Split second"! If anything one eye's are catching Everything that is see but the Brain filters out what is not needed.. You are one silly person! LOL

Maybe your Brain makes your eye's "go blind for a split second" But I see it all and If you notice, while your standing in the mirror one day "Admiring yourself" (LOL)- your body is constantly moving and shifting Very slightly, as well your eye's doing the same thing. That is because the eye's stay "Fixed" on what it's focused on. Kind of like a Hawk's head will stay still while it's body is moving around if someone is holding it, while it's staring at something... Same pricipal!

I like the movement of the "Auto Motion Plus 120Hz"! It's more interesting!

Plus, in real life, do you see trailing of all objects you are turning your head? No! Auto Motion Plus adds to the realizm of the film. It's kind of like standing in front an object and looking past it, focused on something further away. You see the demensional movement of things in front of what your actually looking at!
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Whaaaaat? No you don't go blind for a "Split second"! If anything one eye's are catching Everything that is see but the Brain filters out what is not needed.. You are one silly person! LOL

Maybe your Brain makes your eye's "go blind for a split second" But I see it all and If you notice, while your standing in the mirror one day "Admiring yourself" (LOL)- your body is constantly moving and shifting Very slightly, as well your eye's doing the same thing. That is because the eye's stay "Fixed" on what it's focused on. Kind of like a Hawk's head will stay still while it's body is moving around if someone is holding it, while it's staring at something... Same pricipal!

I like the movement of the "Auto Motion Plus 120Hz"! It's more interesting!

Plus, in real life, do you see trailing of all objects you are turning your head? No! Auto Motion Plus adds to the realizm of the film. It's kind of like standing in front an object and looking past it, focused on something further away. You see the demensional movement of things in front of what your actually looking at!
Well yeah your brain basically doesn't pick it up. They've done plenty of testing on this, it's a proven fact. And I'm not talking about slight movements, I'm talking about the quick jerks like say if you're reading something and you get to the end of one line, it's when you snap back to the beginning of the next line.

You can argue about realism all you want, the simple fact of the matter is that some people will like it while others won't. Same thing with dynamic contrast. That's another thing I can't stand.
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Well yeah your brain basically doesn't pick it up. They've done plenty of testing on this, it's a proven fact. And I'm not talking about slight movements, I'm talking about the quick jerks like say if you're reading something and you get to the end of one line, it's when you snap back to the beginning of the next line.

You can argue about realism all you want, the simple fact of the matter is that some people will like it while others won't. Same thing with dynamic contrast. That's another thing I can't stand.
I can totally agree with you on that! Us for instance!

Yeah I only use my dynamic contrast in the middle of the day, when all of the curtins are open and it's sunny! Then it's great! But I like to go through and adjust each of my presets too!

P.S. Is that why I normally get distracted with the word as I move to the next line while reading? Hence the reason I'm not a book person! LOL

Hey thanks for all of the info brother! Good times!
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