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Poll Results: How Often do you update your firmware

 
  • 56% (31)
    Every time a new firmware is released
  • 36% (20)
    Only when there is a problem
  • 7% (4)
    Never
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post #271 of 408
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IRST may be used as both an AHCI and RAID driver, I have used it for both for years, that in itself is not the problem.

eBombzor, I have noticed that too with my 520's and IRST 11.6 and 11.7. Do you have a single 520 or a RAID 0 volume of 520's? I have two 520's in RAID 0, and noticed what you did. You can't access the 520 after you run the Optimizer for a few minutes, as in opening it to check folders or open files, correct?

You may be right about the new version(s) of IRST causing this. I thought it was related to the latest version of the Toolbox, and that I am able to run the Optimizer on a RAID 0 volume on my Z77 chipset board.

For example, you run the Optimizer, and it finishes quickly, correct? But then you can't exit the Toolbox or do other things. Then that stops in a few minutes, and all is well.

I notice that if I run the Optimizer on a different Intel SSD, like my 510 (non-OS drive), I can check files on that drive immediately, and no freezing occurs. So I wonder if this is related to the SandForce controller on the 520, since the 510 has a Marvell controller.

The optimizer in the Samsung Magician software takes about 4 - 5 minutes to complete, but I did not try to do other things while it ran. If the SandForce controller causes this, then Intel should have let it run for the few minutes the 520 is locked up, and then say the Optimizer finished, as Samsung does, IMO. I've read SandForce controllers handle TRIM differently than other controllers, as in they delay its application for use with idle GC. I wonder if Intel is forcing the TRIM to be applied, which causes the short lockup. Or, it is an IRST bug.
Turning off buffer flushing solved my freezing issue. Who knew! rolleyes.gif
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Turning off buffer flushing solved my freezing issue. Who knew! rolleyes.gif

Really, that is interesting! So your 520 was completely accessible immediately after running the Optimizer?

Of course I had to try this on my 520's in RAID 0. The result was different than yours, and different than my previous experience. I still had a freeze, but it took a while to start, and did not last as long. I'm not surprised in my result, since applying TRIM on a RAID 0 volume is difficult, and perhaps worse for a SandForce controller.

Will unchecking that make the SSD last longer? No. Write caching settings can delay write operations to a drive, to increase system performance, but this really applies much more to a HDD, since a SSD is unlikely to have write operations waiting to be done, due to their speed.
post #273 of 408
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Not using the drive will make it last longer.

Sage advice indeed! rolleyessmileyanim.gif

But what if it's broken? worriedsmiley.gif
post #274 of 408
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Turning off buffer flushing solved my freezing issue. Who knew! rolleyes.gif

Really, that is interesting! So your 520 was completely accessible immediately after running the Optimizer?

Of course I had to try this on my 520's in RAID 0. The result was different than yours, and different than my previous experience. I still had a freeze, but it took a while to start, and did not last as long. I'm not surprised in my result, since applying TRIM on a RAID 0 volume is difficult, and perhaps worse for a SandForce controller.

Will unchecking that make the SSD last longer? No. Write caching settings can delay write operations to a drive, to increase system performance, but this really applies much more to a HDD, since a SSD is unlikely to have write operations waiting to be done, due to their speed.
Actually I tried it again just to make sure it didn't happen. Well... the freeze acted differently this time. Instead of the freeze occurring right after the Optimizer, it occurs ~10sec after it. I don't think it happens all the time b/c I didn't have a freeze last time.
That's unfortunate. The freeze length actually feels the same.
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Not using the drive will make it last longer.

Sage advice indeed! rolleyessmileyanim.gif

But what if it's broken? worriedsmiley.gif

Well you can do one of many things, including:
  • Throwing it off a cliff
  • Set it on fire
  • Shoot it
  • Hammer it to a wall
  • Use it as a fishing lure
  • Use it as a ninja star
  • Use it to cut fruit
  • Smash it with a coconut
  • Smash it with a wad of bacon
  • Eat it

Actually, you can even do multiple things at once with it, for example...
Shoot it after setting it on fire and throwing it off a cliff or use it to spread peanut butter on bread and then eat it as a peanut butter and SSD sandwich!









Or you could just continue troubleshooting and/or RMA it. However, that is rather mundane.
post #277 of 408
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Well you can do one of many things, including:
  • Throwing it off a cliff
  • Set it on fire
  • Shoot it
  • Hammer it to a wall
  • Use it as a fishing lure
  • Use it as a ninja star
  • Use it to cut fruit
  • Smash it with a coconut
  • Smash it with a wad of bacon
  • Eat it

Actually, you can even do multiple things at once with it, for example...
Shoot it after setting it on fire and throwing it off a cliff or use it to spread peanut butter on bread and then eat it as a peanut butter and SSD sandwich!









Or you could just continue troubleshooting and/or RMA it. However, that is rather mundane.

Eat it? Depends on the SSD, the classic 32nm NAND has a better flavor. (I think you are hungry. Bacon as a blunt instrument... headscratch.gif )

You forgot using it as a clay pigeon for skeet shooting... gunner.gif I bet a few people in this forum have thought about doing that with some SSDs. sozo.gif

This reminds me of a guy that posted in another forum that had the ATA password set on his SSD. He forgot to clear the password before he secure erased the SSD, and afterwards he couldn't get passed entering the password. He was locked out so the SSD became useless. Apparently he was a System Admin. so thought he could crack it, but failed. Never called the manufacture about it. He claimed he had his interns at the company cut the SSD into pieces with tin snips, or some kind of tool. What a fine learning experience that was! thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
post #278 of 408
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Originally Posted by parsec View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Well you can do one of many things, including:
  • Throwing it off a cliff
  • Set it on fire
  • Shoot it
  • Hammer it to a wall
  • Use it as a fishing lure
  • Use it as a ninja star
  • Use it to cut fruit
  • Smash it with a coconut
  • Smash it with a wad of bacon
  • Eat it

Actually, you can even do multiple things at once with it, for example...
Shoot it after setting it on fire and throwing it off a cliff or use it to spread peanut butter on bread and then eat it as a peanut butter and SSD sandwich!









Or you could just continue troubleshooting and/or RMA it. However, that is rather mundane.

Eat it? Depends on the SSD, the classic 32nm NAND has a better flavor. (I think you are hungry. Bacon as a blunt instrument... headscratch.gif )
I just ate chilli w/ bacon with a side of kingston v100...you jealous? lol
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You forgot using it as a clay pigeon for skeet shooting... gunner.gif I bet a few people in this forum have thought about doing that with some SSDs. sozo.gif
that is what throwing it off a cliff on fire and shooting it was insinuating! tongue.gif
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This reminds me of a guy that posted in another forum that had the ATA password set on his SSD. He forgot to clear the password before he secure erased the SSD, and afterwards he couldn't get passed entering the password. He was locked out so the SSD became useless. Apparently he was a System Admin. so thought he could crack it, but failed. Never called the manufacture about it. He claimed he had his interns at the company cut the SSD into pieces with tin snips, or some kind of tool. What a fine learning experience that was! thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
lol
post #279 of 408
Here's how my 520 120gig Cherryville recently did before it gets replaced by a new 840 Pro 256gig later this week. Dying to see comparison!


intel520.jpg
post #280 of 408
Which one from among Intel's 330 and 520 series should I get for a 120GB (or maybe 240GB) OS+games drive?

Thanks! smile.gif
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