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post #21 of 29
For what it's worth I ran my own crysis bench since the OP didn't have it. I did basic and aero. If someone wants classic I'll do it. Tests were done with sig rig except the 5850 was at stock settings.

Results

Aero:



Basic:



No difference really.

Anyhow, +rep to the op for a good idea and great info. I've wondered the same thing but never really got the motivation to put it to the test.
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Edited by sgr215 - 2/24/10 at 5:46pm
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post #22 of 29
I ran the crysis benchmarks on my system. Q9650 @ 3.6ghz with an 8800GT slightly overclocked (my 4850 died, ordering a 5850 soon).

Aero
Avg: 33.65 Min: 22.84 Max: 42.94
Aero no trans
Avg: 34.31 Min: 26.22 Max: 42.28
Classic
Avg: 34.35 Min: 26.14 Max: 42.50


Aero no trans
Avg: 34.31 Min: 26.22 Max: 42.28

Classic
Avg: 34.35 Min: 26.14 Max: 42.50


My verdict, I can live without transparency to get more fps and will do so from now on. Even after I get my 5850 I wont be running with transparency.
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Very inconclusive observation here, but OP and myself are running Nvidia GPUs while the one above me is running ATi. Seems to effect Nvidia? Or maybe its the 5850 is a beast, or hes running DX9... dunno the idea of this thread is an interesting one.
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post #24 of 29
Yeah, that doesn't really mean anything. Try benching with a game that runs full-screen and see if you see any difference. I am guessing there will be none.
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post #25 of 29
There really is no difference as far as I can tell. I tried the DIRT2 benchmark and also got the same results with and without aero.

DX11 Heaven benchmark (5850 @ 1000/1200)

Aero:



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Thread Starter 
So far we have ATI and Nvidia benchmarks, but all with different programs
It does appear like Nvidia cards however do get a slightly better average framerate, and that the minimum increases. Tonight I will run some Stalker benchmarks, could someone with an ati card comparable to a gtx260 PM me so we can run the benchmark at the same settings ?
    
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The difference is pretty negligible if you ask me, and besides, if you run games fullscreen Windows will switch back to basic mode anyways..
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csscmaster3 View Post
So far we have ATI and Nvidia benchmarks, but all with different programs
It does appear like Nvidia cards however do get a slightly better average framerate, and that the minimum increases. Tonight I will run some Stalker benchmarks, could someone with an ati card comparable to a gtx260 PM me so we can run the benchmark at the same settings ?
I've got to disagree. For example, if you take sepheroth003's Crysis benchmarks at first glance you may see a small improvement however, the true difference is only 0.7 of a frame between aero/basic. This result is so small it's likely pure coincidence basic came out on top. My Heaven benchmark further proves this point; if you look at my results basic actually lost to aero. However, once again the result is so small it's well within the margin of error. I also ran the Stalker-CoP benchmark with my 5850 at stock settings. Once again you'll see the results are pretty much the same except Stalker further proves the point. You'll notice basic wins in some tests and looses in others. However, the overall differences are fractions of a frame between aero/basic.

Aero:



Basic:


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post
Yeah, that doesn't really mean anything. Try benching with a game that runs full-screen and see if you see any difference. I am guessing there will be none.
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Originally Posted by Radeon915 View Post
The difference is pretty negligible if you ask me, and besides, if you run games fullscreen Windows will switch back to basic mode anyways..
The crysis benchmark I ran does go fullscreen. Just displays results in a window.

For mine it was min or max that I cared about. I got 4fps more average. With this 8800gt that makes a difference. Now if you were already running 50-60+ frames then no it wouldn't matter.
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