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Hey guys - I have worked out a few tricks with my pc (gigabyte easy tune 5, you can run it at 5:4 which was my problem)

I have now got the CPU running @ 3.96 GHZ stable, but I get occasional shutdowns due to my crappy 350w PSU. I am buying a 500w tomorrow,

my CPU temps are 42 idle, I've seen them get as high as 64 load (after a few hours or overnight)

any other tips now for getting this thing to run higher? this cpu is going damn nice for it's stock 3.0 rating and I want to see how far it can go, I may try for 4.2 w/ the new PSU

The CPU booted into 4.00Ghz but didnt load into windows (just blank desktop with a mouse, so not a total loss) I was amazed

So yeah guys thanks for all your help with the other post and I want to get this thing up past 4.00, so fly your suggestions please (dont mention water cooling though that will come later)
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well 64c load is much too high!!! u NEED to invest in some better cooling, big typhoon, xp-90, scythe ninja.... and the larger PSU is a good idea, just dont get a cheapy....
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well 64 load is much too high!!! u NEED to invest in some better cooling, big typhoon, xp-90, scythe ninja.... and the larger PSU is a good idea, just dont get a cheapy....
Not really, the prescotts can run up to 67 C without harm. Your thermal throttling is going to kick in though, and slow you way down. You need a better heatsink anyways, unless you just take away some vcore. My 3.0 ran at 3.96 90% stable but I backed it down to 3810 where it ran the best for 24/7 usage. You arent going to get much more out of it, for 24/7 use. What is your vcore at? What is the chip revision? Mine was a D0. Also, look at the ammount of amps on the 12V rail on the PSU, not just the wattage. You'll want 24A or more on the 12 V rail. If the PSU has more than one 12 V rail, combine the ammounts to calculate how much it has.
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Not really, the prescotts can run up to 67 C without harm. Your thermal throttling is going to kick in though, and slow you way down. You need a better heatsink anyways, unless you just take away some vcore.
well a while ago i was running just under 4gz also, but i would be around 64-65 load and i would just crash from it...it was causing alot of instabilty, so i was just saying get lower temps to help stay stable.
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well 64c load is much too high!!! u NEED to invest in some better cooling, big typhoon, xp-90, scythe ninja.... and the larger PSU is a good idea, just dont get a cheapy....
I thought about the same, keep then under 65c and your fine i hear...im not sure, opinions on this topic seem to differ

however, yeah your right I do expect it to crash at later stages, but I want to see how high it will boot..should I do things like disable unnecssary devices (for overclocking) such as LAN and IDE ports (i use a sata hdd) ..

ps: the cooling is not a cheapy, it's a zalman 7700 and it does a fairly good job, I thought 40c idle for a 3.96 clock was a good job

any more suggestins?
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The Zalman 7700 is a terrible cooler, I had one and my new Tt Big Typhoon is 10c idle and 15c full load better than the Zalman! Plus it's quieter anyways, I would get a Tt Big Typhoon and for the PSU, only the best, the SeaSonic S12-600 (or S12-500 if you don't need 600W, both are top notch and also silent lol) other than that I think you have quite an amazing overclock going, with the Big T and S12 PSU you should hit 4GHz if not 4.2, assuming your chip is up to it.
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Please you gotta tell me what did you do with that easy tune crap... i have it to and cant understand if its screwing up my overclock.... i can only get my 3.0 to 3.45 stable. I had more once but eventually crapped out.... the werid thing is..... i seem to have better specs than you no offense......can anyone help??? I would oc using the bios and then the changes would be seen in easy tune ( which i dont use). However there seems to be limited options in my bios for overclocking.... such as how easy tune has a ratio setting
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this is the best i could do with mine...http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=65782.....i got it to 4.0 but when windows was coming up i got a blue screen....its runs fine though at 3.8 which is what i have now...
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Please you gotta tell me what did you do with that easy tune crap... i have it to and cant understand if its screwing up my overclock.... i can only get my 3.0 to 3.45 stable. I had more once but eventually crapped out.... the werid thing is..... i seem to have better specs than you no offense......can anyone help??? I would oc using the bios and then the changes would be seen in easy tune ( which i dont use). However there seems to be limited options in my bios for overclocking.... such as how easy tune has a ratio setting
Frustratingly enough, I assume your problem is your RAM DDR Speed VS your FSB Speed being 1:1 and not 5:4,

what happens, do you get crashes or reboots? you probably have a decent PSU, I was getting shut offs but no more (500w is plenty for my system, and it has neon lights )

*FAQ - running 5:4 ratio with easy tune 5 when no default options in BIOS*

Go into easy tune 5, overclock settings, and do advanced mode, then untick off linear mode, and DOWN the ram freq. (ddr) to 332, (320 is the next lowest setting and I havent experimented enough with this, maybe running a 410 ddr may make system more stable but I dont know enough to answer that but someone else probably can)

also by doing this, once you reboot and go back into your bios you can then change your cpu clock and the RAM will go up in 5:4 mode

*End FAQ*

^^ is this FAQ'ed anywhere!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!!?!? maybe someone could clarify and add it to the database, or PM me and I'll write one up w/ screenshots etc I do documentation for my IT company so I could make somehting up!?!?! just ask and I will do!!

I am now running @ 3.9 stable, and i'm wondering if it's worth trying to get any cooler. I'm EXTREMELY happy with this, Prime95 is still running and I have seen a 6650+ 3D Mark05 score VS 5200 stock!! SiSoft sandra thinks my chip could run a amd x2 2800+ which is aight

Do you REALLY think this will get higher than 4.00? I'm starting to think that I've hit it's limit..it will work in 3.98 but eventually freeze after running video card and cpu full for a few minutes. 4.00 I have seen boot but it froze at desktop, no icons and just a moving mouse cursor.

w/ 40c idle temps is it going to be too much of an investment to get it faster?? I am overclocking to get better value out of my system, so far I've spent aus$150 on fan and psu to get it running better and i see that as an investment in my system, whereas watercooling etc for $160 aus to get .15 ghz or something out of my system may not seem worth it

I'll see how it goes, pretty darn happy with it at the moment, I musta' got one of dem' good chips I keep hearing about in the movies

Anyway now I might try and answer a few questions, etc now I've spent the last 2/3 days sitting infront of this thing.. thanks for all your help, ram is @ 2.5-6-4-4 VS stock 3-9-5-5 (kingston value) so i think thats doing alright but i havent pushed it to it's limits, ..

anyway Ill post some pics to it's looking pretty funky
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I think I could hit ~3.8 but I don't think I could last up there long. It's only stable at 3.6 where I'm at now. I'll be adding the AS5 in the next few days to see if that'll take my temps down (the limiting factor atm). I think I have equivalent/better rig than both of you and I'm only the middle man among us.
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