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hey guys....i m just wondering....couple of weeks ago i asked for proposals on building a super pc....turned out at the end of the day its better for me to build a server as a desktop, that was with opterons and a tyan board....

well im leaving for brazil as i mentioned earlier in two weeks and the system should be up and running within 2 weeks of my arrival there....but now i am having some doubts.... can windows xp pro do it? i mean can it really take advantage of the dual processor or even dual core processor and make the system work blazingly fast?

what i am asking is this, if i build such a system....can windows really take advantage of it???

i dont wanna dump about 4k USD only to find out that putting on a dual processor system or a dual proc is actually dampening my system performance when i can easily for half the money build a single dual core system and throw phase change and every other crap inside and turn that into a super pc.....

this is really very important guys....i am about to blow serious money here and i dont want to see it go to waste.... i have always been one to make sure every single penny i spend is worth the money....thats y i dont mind it being expensive as long as it performs to my expectations...

can some1 put an input on this? especially ppl like yiffy, bigval and gang....
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I don't think you should go as far as using two processors, there aren't any operating systems (yet) that take advantage of Dual Core although having Dual Core makes a difference, I doubt that having 4 cores will make your system (desktop) be that much faster, as far as games I'm sure there will be a performance inhance but this is my suggestion:

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2x Western Digital Raptor (150GB) (RAID-0)
Zalman CNPS9500 LED Heatsink

On newegg this totals out (w/ shipping to me) to: $3,768.39
If you would like, I'm sure you could change the PSU to a PC Power & Cooling 1000W PSU which would give you a total (w/ shipping to me) to: $4,131.62

But I don't know where you would ship it, so I couldn't say if it would be more or less, and if you are thinking why not just get a PC Power & Cooling 850W SSI, its no point in that becuase the 1000W costs 10 bucks less.
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post #3 of 9
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interesting....but then again the fx60 is a 64bit processor....there are currently no os which can actually take advantage of this capability right? also why the craze for fx60? is it really that much better than a dual processor system or a four core system?
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interesting....but then again the fx60 is a 64bit processor....there are currently no os which can actually take advantage of this capability right? also why the craze for fx60? is it really that much better than a dual processor system or a four core system?
Well, I'd say 80% of the AMD processors available to buy on newegg are 64Bit, and so are the opterons, so. Thats not the problem, and as for 64bit operating system, there is Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, but it doesn't (like you said) take advantage. And not everyone is making programs & drivers for it so there may be some incompatability issues between Software & Hardware.

Other than that I don't see any reason in you not getting an AMD FX60 processor I personally think two dual core processors is wayy too much power for someone who isn't going to be doing that much things other than gaming and maybe alittle encoding?

But other than actually hosting a server I don't see why you would need two processors, keyword NEED. FX60 is just about as far as most people go, and even if you do get dual core x2 then you won't be able to get that good of cooling due to the size of the boards and the space between the heatsink of both processors.
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post #5 of 9
Yea if i was u i'd either op for an fx60 or an fx57, though you could probably get an opty single or dual core that would overclock to 3.0 with decent cooling. It's all up to you mate. Good luck
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post #6 of 9
What is not clear is the actual use ie what apps are to be run on this system and how is it to be accessed?

You have two very different systems outlined in mind, an Opteron / Tyan combination is the 2xx series or higher so the build is very different from a 1xx or A64 build.

OS - look at Win2003 Server SP1 either 32/64bit versions... more stable than XP and better equipped to use the system but for SMP systems then look at a Unix based OS... again with either of these OS' there are some desktops apps that just will not run in these environments.

If gaming is the 'real' use then an FX60 will do you well esp. under some good cooling - beware their cold bug though keep above -20C.

Have you looked at Intel?

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well im leaving for brazil as i mentioned earlier in two weeks and the system should be up and running within 2 weeks of my arrival there....but now i am having some doubts.... can windows xp pro do it? i mean can it really take advantage of the dual processor or even dual core processor and make the system work blazingly fast?

what i am asking is this, if i build such a system....can windows really take advantage of it???

i dont wanna dump about 4k USD only to find out that putting on a dual processor system or a dual proc is actually dampening my system performance when i can easily for half the money build a single dual core system and throw phase change and every other crap inside and turn that into a super pc.....

this is really very important guys....i am about to blow serious money here and i dont want to see it go to waste.... i have always been one to make sure every single penny i spend is worth the money....thats y i dont mind it being expensive as long as it performs to my expectations...

can some1 put an input on this? especially ppl like yiffy, bigval and gang....
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well...let me start of by saying this...the computer is going to be doing quite a bit of stuff... for starters its going to be running some simulations for a chemical plant that i would be building in brazil which includes some heat exchanger sizing in TEMA standard

no to forget some drafting work in AutoCad with 3D rendition of structural and piping works

on top of everything else i am building this for pure personal reasons such as gaming and the need to push something to the limits....i want to build a machine which can work as fast as mind does and not something which i have to wait on to carry out my work..i hate slow coaches....and though i know for a fact that no machine can work as efficiently as a man can ever... i wanna try at least...

sorry about that lightsource...maybe i wasnt clear on the meaning...i need something which can fulfill my professional and also personal requirements....
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So you aren't going to be doing any gaming?

In that case you should change alot of things, you should get an intel and as far as your videocard, somthing along the lines of a Quadro:

Quadro FX3400: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133121
Quadro FX4500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133162
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You know, having a two-core system isn't that bad... I mean, yeah it doesn't work to its full potential, but hey, I can do a lot of things.... without them crashes. What do I know, but i'm just saying... its a pretty good turnout
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