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I am not talking about the NB.... I am talking about the mosfets (the third and upper heatsink).

My NB stays at 40C idle and 45-48C load... so similar temps.... it is the mosfets that are getting extremely hot.

This is actually what I think may be at the heart of the 'core-temp' vs 'cpu-temp' debate/issue.

The 'core-temp' is reported by the cpu and is inside the silicon/heat-spreader on the cpu. On my thuban it is acurate as far as I can measure with my temp probes.... (maybe 3-5C low)

The 'cpu-temp' as reported by the motherboard is near the cpu socket.... and from what I am seeing with temps mirrors the mosfet temp and not the cpu temp!!!!

This is ground breaking stuff.... I am sitting here using an IR temp gun and watching the cpu temp reported by asus probe mirror what the mosfets measured at.....


Anyone else with an IR gun can test this as well?
I thought about moving one of my temp sensors to the mosfet HS to see what temp it was (and will later on tonight) as I do not have a IR temp gun. I'll post what I get.

A few things to consider, running the Mugen with it's straight (non curved fins to blow on HS, but over it) is most likely why your temps might be a little warm. This is common when you use after market air coolers as they tend to block air flow compared to the stock coolers which direct air towards the mobo and than over to the mosfet HS. You may want to add an internal fan to get the air to mover onto the HS if it's a problem. The VRM's on this board are some of the finest and can take a lot of heat so it shouldn't be a problem. I haven't heard of anyone having a problem.

I do know, as I too have had a Mugen mounted on my 1090T they will cool a hexacore when OC'd with a P/P fan but are on the edge of the capacity unless you run some crazy fans. I had a pair of GT AP-15's with a shroud on mine and a 4.0GHz OC was my limit temp wise. One other possibility would be to run a fan behind the CPU/mobo from the back side of the case. This also lowers temps but obviously depends on your case, and abilities to mod what you have.

This is the exact reason I went to a WC loop. Just got tired of fighting temps. Also opened up the mosfet HS to more air flow and I've been curious as to what the temp actually is on it now. I'll post findings when I get the chance.
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Yea, I can only get about 3.8-3.9 ghz when I start hitting a temp wall with the mugen.

I took the small noisy fan from the default thuban cpu cooler and propped it on top of the mugen aiming at the mosfets. I get about 48 on the "cpu-temp" (aka mosfet temp). Which I confirmed with my IR gun.

The back side of the mobo is somewhat accessible to me in the 800D so I can test the temps in that area. They are about 2-5C higher than whatever on the other side is.... not much I will do about it....

Once I get a job... (anyone wanna hire me? (Programming))... and enough cash I am planning on a water cooling loop for my cpu (bulldozer) and gpu (gtx 590).

But that and the processor is in the future.... I can dream.....
 
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I've been having a problem with the memory slot closest to the CPU. Any stick I throw at it causes problems.

If I the speeds set to anything over 1086, it will not boot. Otherwise during the POST it will restart constantly, sometimes randomly getting past POST and boot fine.

Is there something I don't know?
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I've been having a problem with the memory slot closest to the CPU. Any stick I throw at it causes problems.

If I the speeds set to anything over 1086, it will not boot. Otherwise during the POST it will restart constantly, sometimes randomly getting past POST and boot fine.

Is there something I don't know?
Maybe it's cause you're running three by two maybe?

You can run 2 sticks no problem. Slots 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. Running 3 slots you're creating your own issues not the MoBo. The MoBo didn't choose to run 3 sticks.

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Maybe it's cause you're running three by two maybe?

You can run 2 sticks no problem. Slots 1 and 3 or 2 and 4. Running 3 slots you're creating your own issues not the MoBo. The MoBo didn't choose to run 3 sticks.

~Ceadder
Well I'm only running 3 sticks, because 1 slot gives me problems. If I do 4, my computer acts up (since that slot if filled). As long as there is no stick in that slot my computer boots up fine, otherwise I have trouble.
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I would like to get a run down of a few new volt settings that I am not used too, and the LLC which is new to me as well! So I figured whom better to ask then the guys that have mastered it lol, not here to troll or plus up on new board just want to learn any helpers?
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Well I'm only running 3 sticks, because 1 slot gives me problems. If I do 4, my computer acts up (since that slot if filled). As long as there is no stick in that slot my computer boots up fine, otherwise I have trouble.
Run two sticks. I think that one of your sticks is faulty and that's why you can't boot properly.

Either that or you have a loose or errant standoff under the board which is causing a grounding issue.

I had 4x2 Dominator kit when I first built this system. I was running a micro board before hand and thought I had all the standoffs swapped out and tight. My system wouldn't POST unless I messed with the Cooler and it was laying on its side. Swapped the back to the stock cooler from the H50 thinking that was my issue. I found an extra standoff, and 3 or 4 of the other ones were loose. Removed the errant standoff and made sure all others were a little over hand tight mounted the MoBo and what do ya know, worked perfect. POSTED without issue.

One of the things I noticed before was that I was able to POST using 2 or 3 sticks. Knowing that my AMD board doesn't do well with odd numbers I ran two. But in the 1st two slots. If I tried to run the Red Slots system would not POST.

Now I'm running 2x4 in the Red slots and have had no more issues getting my system past POST.

You might want to check under your board.

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Question for my fellow CHIV owners.... what temperatures are your VRM's? I used an infrared temp gun to check: the heatsink, around the heatsink, and the back of the mobo in the same spot....

Mine are at 57-59C on the front and 60-69C on the back..... Is this normal?

It seems to me like the heatsink isn't doing its job... as it is also that hot.

For reference my cpu at the same time is 44C measured with my temp gun front/back, which corresponds to the 'core-temp'. The 'cpu-temp' is close to what those VRM's are at.....

Anyone shed some light on this for me?
I have those results if you're interested of the VRM temps. 1st snip is under load w/prime95 for just over an hour and a half, while second snip is about 20 minutes after the prime95 had finished. These are both from using the 2 pin temp sensors I just installed. Everything is labeled in HWMonitor Pro. I'm really liken these sensors.

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I would like to get a run down of a few new volt settings that I am not used too, and the LLC which is new to me as well! So I figured whom better to ask then the guys that have mastered it lol, not here to troll or plus up on new board just want to learn any helpers?
I'd be happy to share what I know. Feel free to ask away, or you could PM me if you'd rather too. We're pretty easy going in here.

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I have those results if you're interested of the VRM temps. 1st snip is under load w/prime95 for just over an hour and a half, while second snip is about 20 minutes after the prime95 had finished. These are both from using the 2 pin temp sensors I just installed. Everything is labeled in HWMonitor Pro. I'm really liken these sensors.



I'd be happy to share what I know. Feel free to ask away, or you could PM me if you'd rather too. We're pretty easy going in here.
well it is been a long azz day I had a big prob, with windows so it was not pretty but I was forced to wipe out everything and do a fresh install, the only good thing is I have Steam on its own drive so nothing to it after click on the exe file ad even my password was saved lol. but I got the board in my sig and it has about 15 or more settings that my M4N98TD-EVO did not have like LLC and 1.8v and VDDR volts and just so many new things that I am just not shur where they go lol! I was fine with the old board new ever setting and its limits lol this thing is cool UEFI kinda neat but my point is I feel like a newbie so help me out if you had a board before and switched up to all these new things as I did or would you rather I just PM and go over one at a time? even the digi-vrm is new to me and I know maxing things out can screw up stable machine just as well as not enough so HELP! lol
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well it is been a long azz day I had a big prob, with windows so it was not pretty but I was forced to wipe out everything and do a fresh install, the only good thing is I have Steam on its own drive so nothing to it after click on the exe file ad even my password was saved lol. but I got the board in my sig and it has about 15 or more settings that my M4N98TD-EVO did not have like LLC and 1.8v and VDDR volts and just so many new things that I am just not shur where they go lol! I was fine with the old board new ever setting and its limits lol this thing is cool UEFI kinda neat but my point is I feel like a newbie so help me out if you had a board before and switched up to all these new things as I did or would you rather I just PM and go over one at a time? even the digi-vrm is new to me and I know maxing things out can screw up stable machine just as well as not enough so HELP! lol
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