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Originally Posted by Mistral View Post

The 1090T and 1100T that I had in the Crosshair IV both ran @ 4.2ghz with the CPU/NB @ 3000Ghz and 16gig of ram (1600Mhz, 1866Mhz, 2000Mhz and 21333Mhz kits) with no problems whatsoever on all BIOS's including the latest Bulldozer BIOS. The fact that Raja works for Asus doesn't make him God and what he says is not engraved in stone, I've been programming, repairing and modding PC's since 1984 but that doesn't qualify me to make sweeping statements about the memory controllers in AMD chips.

Yeah but you don't work for Asus like Raja who must be very familiar with issues regarding their company's hardware and I completely agree that your not qualified to make sweeping statements about the memory controller in AMD chips. So consider yourself lucky you got a chip with highly binned memory controller.. Congrads..
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No offense but I place blame in this order...

Owner 75%
Ram 10%
CPU 10%
Board 5%.

I'm running the same board (i.e. CIVF) and have run it with 955, 965, 1055 and 1100T CPU. I ran Snipers, Dominators and Ripjaws on this board. Not only do I not find that the system is only good enough to run a spreadsheet, I use it to Fold 24/7 for F@H.

The one thing I noticed is that you don't have it listed in your system specs(although you can add it in your sig editing feature) here, but you don't even list everything that you're running in a simple to glance through list...


  • For example I am currently running
  • 1100T
  • 8Gigs GSkill Ripjaws X 1600 series
  • Sapphire 6870
  • HX850w PSU


Nor have you shown validation for your Clock showing us what you're running whether stock or clocked.

Also I did explain to you a few pages back that IF you are indeed having a problem to contact ASUS and they would handle you with no less than a RMA swap. Thereby sending you a board and giving you 14 days of grace period to get the offending board back to them and spending only the shipping of that board. If you don't get it back to them within 14 days you turn into a pumpkin and they charge you for the one they sent to you.

Personally I think that you're blowing this whole thing out of proportion if you indeed own the board to begin with.

If you have it I would suggest validating with CPU-ID that will tell you what BIOS and Revision you're working with. We can better help you get past this with the proper information. At best all you're doing is aggravating yourself at the moment and that's not going to help you solve your problem. Trust me I know I suffer from Irishman's Short Fuse syndrome. Been known to fly off the handle at the drop of a hat. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post

No offense but I place blame in this order...
Owner 75%
Ram 10%
CPU 10%
Board 5%.
I'm running the same board (i.e. CIVF) and have run it with 955, 965, 1055 and 1100T CPU. I ran Snipers, Dominators and Ripjaws on this board. Not only do I not find that the system is only good enough to run a spreadsheet, I use it to Fold 24/7 for F@H.
The one thing I noticed is that you don't have it listed in your system specs(although you can add it in your sig editing feature) here, but you don't even list everything that you're running in a simple to glance through list...
  • For example I am currently running
  • 1100T
  • 8Gigs GSkill Ripjaws X 1600 series
  • Sapphire 6870
  • HX850w PSU

Nor have you shown validation for your Clock showing us what you're running whether stock or clocked.
Also I did explain to you a few pages back that IF you are indeed having a problem to contact ASUS and they would handle you with no less than a RMA swap. Thereby sending you a board and giving you 14 days of grace period to get the offending board back to them and spending only the shipping of that board. If you don't get it back to them within 14 days you turn into a pumpkin and they charge you for the one they sent to you.
Personally I think that you're blowing this whole thing out of proportion if you indeed own the board to begin with.
If you have it I would suggest validating with CPU-ID that will tell you what BIOS and Revision you're working with. We can better help you get past this with the proper information. At best all you're doing is aggravating yourself at the moment and that's not going to help you solve your problem. Trust me I know I suffer from Irishman's Short Fuse syndrome. Been known to fly off the handle at the drop of a hat. smile.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I apologize if I seem to have a short fuse but you want cpu-z validation for stock clocks? Ok will do but I assure you I own this board and rma'ing it I just think its a waste of time. For all I know its the 1090T cpu well ok I guess I could rma that too but I'm suffering from RMA fatigue (unrelated hardware). Besides I thought it was a memory compatibility problem and if I rma the board what good would it do if its picky about ram its going to happen again? Anyhow give me a minute and I'll post the cpu validation you wanted..
post #12114 of 13131
Heres the validation link:


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Thanks.
Edited by davidm71 - 6/17/12 at 7:57pm
post #12115 of 13131
Okay...

1. Didn't know what you were running...

2. What is the default voltage of your RAM? Is it 1.65v? It's been awhile since I ran my Snipers but I think that's what my stock defaults were for 2x4Gig.

3. Snipers aren't on QVL btw so if you're having issues I would say here is your weakest link.

4. What is the setting for your RAM in the BIOS? Assuming you're running 1600 series or better what is the speed showing in your BIOS? After POSTing via GoButton Default will or should be 1333 as that is the optimum base clock by AMD Default. They can work on faster RAM but 1333 is default. If it's set to 1333 check to see that you're set to D.O.C.P(? Apologies if I get the nomenclature wrong here) and you can up the speed of the RAM to 1600 which is technically an OC parameter in the BIOS even though the speed is stock.

5. Have you tried running two sticks by themselves in slots 1 and 3? I understand you want the full monty but right now we're in checkdown mode. You could and I would recommend trying one stick at a time in 1st slot to see if the system will POST with the RAM. If all POST from first slot then add a 2nd stick in 3rd slot and see if you're running stable. If stable then I think that it is indeed the RAM and not the CPU or the board. If it's simply a matter of the Qualified Vendors List not supporting the RAM try contacting ASUS and have them fix u up with a BIOS that will include that RAM at the optimum settings. If you want/need 16Gigs you might be better served running 2x8Gigs instead of a full spread of 4G. System should run much more stable if everything else has been addressed and still not functioning properly.

Apologies if you're a little Hypersensitive atm. I fully understand why you are. But you're all over the place and understandably so. Nothing worse on the nerves than something that should be working, simply not working or crapping out while you sit there in disbelief. I would sincerely recommend that you add your system to your sig. You can have as many systems in your sig as you like now. I'm sure there is probably a limit but it's definitely more than one now. 2cents.gif

doh.gif Just noticed Crucial in that leeeeeetle tiny box. You should check ASUS QVL to make sure your sticks are supported. If not the above is applicable. If it is we'll have to get you sorted out some other way. I get that it's frustrating, but getting the issue sorted out is a good reward for the frustrations involved. smile.gif

Oh yes and what's your BIOS? I might have missed it but this is good to know too.

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Edited by Ceadderman - 6/19/12 at 5:34am
 
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i have currently 5 amd computers 4 of them are top end asus boards 4 of them are amd 6 core cpu,s 2 are fx-8150 8 core and i have had up to 7 amd machines but i have had NO memory problems and darn sure no amd chip problems so either rma the board or rma the processor or borrow a different cpu because RAJA is blowing out his BUNG hole
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if RAJA is so good and asus has such good products why did i get 2 doa chv motherboards in a row i didnt get a very expensive build to boot till i put the third asus CHV in it
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i dont know why you removed two sticks to oc you have seen the oc i did with all 4
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You also have extra power connections to promote stability during OC on CIVE and Crosshair V. wink.gif

I can't specifically say why you had to send 2 back to get a good V board either Bo. I can say however that ASUS is very good with the Hotswap RMA process and they're generally pretty good about getting you up and running. thumb.gif

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Edited by Ceadderman - 6/26/12 at 11:03pm
 
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Okay...
1. Didn't know what you were running...
2. What is the default voltage of your RAM? Is it 1.65v? It's been awhile since I ran my Snipers but I think that's what my stock defaults were for 2x4Gig.
3. Snipers aren't on QVL btw so if you're having issues I would say here is your weakest link.
4. What is the setting for your RAM in the BIOS? Assuming you're running 1600 series or better what is the speed showing in your BIOS? After POSTing via GoButton Default will or should be 1333 as that is the optimum base clock by AMD Default. They can work on faster RAM but 1333 is default. If it's set to 1333 check to see that you're set to D.O.C.P(? Apologies if I get the nomenclature wrong here) and you can up the speed of the RAM to 1600 which is technically an OC parameter in the BIOS even though the speed is stock.
5. Have you tried running two sticks by themselves in slots 1 and 3? I understand you want the full monty but right now we're in checkdown mode. You could and I would recommend trying one stick at a time in 1st slot to see if the system will POST with the RAM. If all POST from first slot then add a 2nd stick in 3rd slot and see if you're running stable. If stable then I think that it is indeed the RAM and not the CPU or the board. If it's simply a matter of the Qualified Vendors List not supporting the RAM try contacting ASUS and have them fix u up with a BIOS that will include that RAM at the optimum settings. If you want/need 16Gigs you might be better served running 2x8Gigs instead of a full spread of 4G. System should run much more stable if everything else has been addressed and still not functioning properly.
Apologies if you're a little Hypersensitive atm. I fully understand why you are. But you're all over the place and understandably so. Nothing worse on the nerves than something that should be working, simply not working or crapping out while you sit there in disbelief. I would sincerely recommend that you add your system to your sig. You can have as many systems in your sig as you like now. I'm sure there is probably a limit but it's definitely more than one now. 2cents.gif
doh.gif Just noticed Crucial in that leeeeeetle tiny box. You should check ASUS QVL to make sure your sticks are supported. If not the above is applicable. If it is we'll have to get you sorted out some other way. I get that it's frustrating, but getting the issue sorted out is a good reward for the frustrations involved. smile.gif
Oh yes and what's your BIOS? I might have missed it but this is good to know too.
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

Thanks for your interest in offering help to sort this all out. Its been a busy week and sorry i couldnt get back to you sooner. Was doing my taxes on the Crosshair 4 formula. Was very stable especially since i put the Crucial ram modules back in (all four banks). I no longer have the snipers to test as I sold them like 6 months ago when they wouldnt cooperate. I still have the Corsair Vengence modules. My theory is that the cpu or board just doesnt like 4gb modules with tight timings. The later two makes of ram were low voltage modules only needing 1.5v and i tried even to bump up the vcore a little but that didnt stop random blue screens and such. The Crucial modules need 1.65v and the system works fine with them in there even at 1600mhz. I dont have any high performance video cards in there any more to test gaming stability anymore. Maybe Ill run OCCT burn in tools. But also Ive tried running the problem modules at 1333mhz with lax timings and half their normal complement and pressing the memok button. None of that worked though I never tried just one stick of ram but obviously this is a memory compatibility issue as the Crucial modules work just fine. Thats why some of you guys luck out with 4 stable rigs. Obviously the board needs a bios update and honestly its kind of sad that thats been lacking dont you think?

About the system config:
Chiv 1090T Windows 7 64 Bios 2002
Corsair force 3 gt ssd - Crucial C8-8-8-24 4x2gb
Ocz modx 700watt psu
Evga 9800gt gpu

(system use to have 6970s and Corsair AX1200 Gold psu but put them in other machine when stability problems arose)

By the way last night I gave advice to someone shopping for a new PC to stay clear of AMD. Based on this and the poor driver support for my 6970 video cards as of late. Different subject for another day.
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