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I'm running 3029, don't know what changes was made or if 3029 is better or not, but it does work with it... By the looks of it, 3029 don't seem to offer anything more than what 3027 has. I may try 3027 and see if I can get RAM past 1600MHz 9-9-9-27.

Have you had a chance to run any benchmarks, is there any advantage in having a newer motherboard. How does the 8350 perform on the IV formula? same as a newer board?
    
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The extreme board comes with 2 flashable bios and 1 non-flashable emergency one and if thats not enough the bios chips are removeable to be flashed on another board so a bad flash ruining the board is almost impossible unless the chips go bad. They really put alot of thought into it.
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Hi guys,
As long as I can remember every once in a while randomly if I plug in a USB drive onto the ch4 system will lockup. Been through a few different psu's and doesn't go away. It's a rare occurrence but it makes me cringe every time I want to plug in a USB drive. Any ideas? Bad motherboard?
Thanks

Ok This issue..

Are you running the extreme board?
Alot of people on the extreme have this issue of random BSOD's caused by the usb chipset.
I dont know if it effects the Formulia users but it made me think my board was bad too.

I have had this issue and i eventually solved it by updating the uPD720200 firmware.
Im actually in the middle of stepping someone else through it.

If you are not using one of those newer CPUs that require the 3027 BIOS then don't use it.
It also crashes me all the time using the setup in my profile.

Consider using BIOS 2002 and firmware 3.0.3.4 for uPD720200 chipset and you should be ok.
But i don't recomend touching this unless the board is near unuseable when using USB stuff. (like me and possibly you)
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/renesas.htm
Theres risks involved but its one of those situations where you have to weigh not using the board or flashing it then you dont have much to lose anyway.

EDIT: It also crashed regardless of the port i plugged it into if it was the 3.0 one or not.
The firmware still fixed it for me.
Edited by silentsquall - 12/9/12 at 4:03pm
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Have you had a chance to run any benchmarks, is there any advantage in having a newer motherboard. How does the 8350 perform on the IV formula? same as a newer board?

As best I can tell, based on what I've seen from others, there is no real performance difference.

For those that missed it...
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4.0GHz

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4.4GHz

4.6GHz

4.8GHz

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As best I can tell, based on what I've seen from others, there is no real performance difference.
For those that missed it...

Thanks for that, I see the cinebench score on stock is 0.04 different from tomshardware.com's benchmark.

so, there appears to be no difference in running the 8350 on a 890FX VS a 990FX motherboaRD (I assume tomshardware runs their benches on ''proper'' as in ''new'' hardware even thought it is not listed what setup they used aside from what ram he had)

Thanks again, I'm sold, getting that 8350 when it comes to stock near me.
    
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I am having superb results from my FX-8350 and the CHIVE. This puppy screams


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http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2609971

supercooling:

i took out the 8350 from my CH4 Extreme, was not too happy really need the ch5z board to make everything work right, im much happier with my 1100T.
the AI suite2 works really well forgot all about that program,im using now thanks supercooling for the help

btw: the 0502 bios im running right now, is this more for 1100T or is the 2002 bios more for 1100T?
merry christmas

I am running 1902 on my system and 1100T generally works very well. Although I am having to RMA my 1100T due to instability. 1055T ran very well on 1902 and only up until recently so had the 1100T. I would recommend going to ASUS and checking their BIOS menu and reading what each BIOS was built to do and make the determination based on this info. 502 was not built with the newer Thubbies in mind. wink.gif

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Hi guys,

As long as I can remember every once in a while randomly if I plug in a USB drive onto the ch4 system will lockup. Been through a few different psu's and doesn't go away. It's a rare occurrence but it makes me cringe every time I want to plug in a USB drive. Any ideas? Bad motherboard?

Thanks

Would help if you told us which BIOS you're on. I would have to say though that I have never had my system lock up from plugging in the USB drive. I would think that your issue is BIOS or Operating System related. My Win7 always scans for the new device and the AV scans for bugs. If it's not BIOS related I would think that it would be both OS and AV checks are conflicting with each other, which can be fixed through the settings menu if this is the case.

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Ok This issue..
Are you running the extreme board?
Alot of people on the extreme have this issue of random BSOD's caused by the usb chipset.
I dont know if it effects the Formulia users but it made me think my board was bad too.
I have had this issue and i eventually solved it by updating the uPD720200 firmware.
Im actually in the middle of stepping someone else through it.
If you are not using one of those newer CPUs that require the 3027 BIOS then don't use it.
It also crashes me all the time using the setup in my profile.
Consider using BIOS 2002 and firmware 3.0.3.4 for uPD720200 chipset and you should be ok.
But i don't recomend touching this unless the board is near unuseable when using USB stuff. (like me and possibly you)
http://www.station-drivers.com/page/renesas.htm
Theres risks involved but its one of those situations where you have to weigh not using the board or flashing it then you dont have much to lose anyway.
EDIT: It also crashed regardless of the port i plugged it into if it was the 3.0 one or not.
The firmware still fixed it for me.

Hi,

I'm using the Crosshair Formula IV and on bios 2101. Was about to flash to 3029 but we're on the same page here on thinking that the NEC firmware for the USB 3 port may have issues. I was just looking through MMTool for the device id of the usb3 chipset but couldn't find it. If you could walk me through the process I would appreciate it. I have another thread on the Asus ROG support forums and they want me to upgrade to 3029 with in windows! Talk about taking a risk!

I will never flash with in Windows. No way!

Anyhow about which port causes the problem I would say 3 or 4 times usb 3.0 port but not exclusively. Makes me cringe every time I plug in a device though!

I swear this is the most trouble jinxed board I've ever owned next to my Abit IN9-32X board. Why is it though you have fond memories of the trouble makers?!

Thanks.


Edit: My USB3.0 controller is this: NEC uPD720200F1 USB 3.0 Host Controller. That station-driver link has similar sounding firmwares minus the F1 suffix. Still good enough?

Edit: I get it. The firmware gets updated though an updater utility. Ok,
Edited by davidm71 - 12/10/12 at 7:07am
    
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Also wanted to point out that the 3029 bios for the CH4 has raid rom version 3.3.1540.6 as opposed to 3.3.1540.17 which is on the 2101 release. The 3029 has a later compile date than the 2101. Wonder why they went backwards?

Also @Spooky,

is there size issues packing the latest AHCI 3.1.1.0 rom with 3.3.1540.17 and the latest roms for Jmicron? Saw you dropped the Jmicron from the Extreme modded bios...

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thanks everyone all my problems are solved, bios, all the problems i had gong on
thanks to all of you good people, supercooling,
especially silentquall, thank you
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