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does 2101 work with fx 8350 and if it does is it any better then 3029

That would be a negatory. ASUS lists in the description which BIOS to use. They have the Beta BIOS in the list an it's a 3k series BIOS only. smile.gif

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Steamroller is expected to come to AM3+ platform... so I wonder if our little Crosshair IV motherboard's will once again pull it off and work with them when every1 says that AM3 890FX chipset doesn't support it thumb.gif
Edited by Tokkan - 12/14/12 at 4:29am
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Steamroller is expected to come to AM3+ platform... so I wonder if our little Crosshair IV motherboard's will once again pull it off and work with them when every1 says that AM3 890FX chipset doesn't support it thumb.gif

Steamroller better be a true upgrade and not another unlocked core update. Otherwise I will be done with AMD until they get their act together. wink.gif

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Steamroller is expected to come to AM3+ platform... so I wonder if our little Crosshair IV motherboard's will once again pull it off and work with them when every1 says that AM3 890FX chipset doesn't support it thumb.gif

steamroller can only be better than 8350 correct?
im hoping asus will bring out a CH5 Extreme soon im ready to change from CH4 Extreme
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Steamroller is expected to come to AM3+ platform... so I wonder if our little Crosshair IV motherboard's will once again pull it off and work with them when every1 says that AM3 890FX chipset doesn't support it thumb.gif

steamroller can only be better than 8350 correct?
im hoping asus will bring out a CH5 Extreme soon im ready to change from CH4 Extreme

ASUS isn't going to come out with CVE because they combined both Formula and Extreme on the CVF platform. Probably won't even come out with CVIExtreme when they come out with the CVIFormula package. It wuld be nice but there isn't much room for growth above and beyond the Formula setup. smile.gif

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steamroller can only be better than 8350 correct?
im hoping asus will bring out a CH5 Extreme soon im ready to change from CH4 Extreme


The demand for the CHIVE was so low that they haven't even bothered to provide BIOS updates. High end AMD motherboards have no demand because AMD has not lived up to providing a CPU that can compete with the high end Intel counterparts. If Steamroller actually performs equally with Intels i7 core processors, then a high end mobo might be justifed, right now AMD has the FX processor that is mainstream, not high ened or extreme, so a middle of the road mobo is all that is needed. If Steamroller is just another step up from Vishera, anything like the "extreme' line of mobo's will never be built again.
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steamroller can only be better than 8350 correct?
im hoping asus will bring out a CH5 Extreme soon im ready to change from CH4 Extreme


The demand for the CHIVE was so low that they haven't even bothered to provide BIOS updates. High end AMD motherboards have no demand because AMD has not lived up to providing a CPU that can compete with the high end Intel counterparts. If Steamroller actually performs equally with Intels i7 core processors, then a high end mobo might be justifed, right now AMD has the FX processor that is mainstream, not high ened or extreme, so a middle of the road mobo is all that is needed. If Steamroller is just another step up from Vishera, anything like the "extreme' line of mobo's will never be built again.

This is not true either. There will always be a demand for a high end AMD board so long as AMD is producing a Quad Core or better CPU. Crosshair V just combined the best of both Formula and Extreme so it made little sense to produce a board that upped the ante. Especially when everything available is already in use. Dont forget that ASUS, ASRock and MSi are all producing high end AMD boards. Gigabyte isn't far behind producing high end AMD boards.

The problem here isn't that nobody wants to produce a high end board for AMD. The problem was that they had their boards ready for market 6 months before Bulldozer launched. They may slow their production runs in order to prevent having platform with no CPU supported, but ASUS isn't going to halt the RoG platform where AMD is concerned. It just made no sense to combine both on the Crosshair V run and then provide an Extreme platform when it already exists on Crosshair V Formula. Although they do have two options for Crosshair V, but that's with and without their RoG soundcard. That's the extent of an Extreme option for the AMD platform. thumb.gif

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This is not true either. There will always be a demand for a high end AMD board so long as AMD is producing a Quad Core or better CPU. Crosshair V just combined the best of both Formula and Extreme so it made little sense to produce a board that upped the ante. Especially when everything available is already in use. Dont forget that ASUS, ASRock and MSi are all producing high end AMD boards. Gigabyte isn't far behind producing high end AMD boards.
The problem here isn't that nobody wants to produce a high end board for AMD. The problem was that they had their boards ready for market 6 months before Bulldozer launched. They may slow their production runs in order to prevent having platform with no CPU supported, but ASUS isn't going to halt the RoG platform where AMD is concerned. It just made no sense to combine both on the Crosshair V run and then provide an Extreme platform when it already exists on Crosshair V Formula. Although they do have two options for Crosshair V, but that's with and without their RoG soundcard. That's the extent of an Extreme option for the AMD platform. thumb.gif
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Not to argue, but until they offer a AMD mobo with a quad x16 PCIe bus, you can't call it high end. Right now even finding a real x16,x8,x8,x8 "quad" mobo is down to Gigabyte. That is not a high end motherboard, it is middle of the road.

There is not a single 990FX motherboard that will run two x16 video cards and a x8 raid card, even the GA-990FX-UD7, which claims to be a quad board, only has 42 PCIe lanes and 3 of them are dedicated to the PCIe x1 slots and the one PCI slot, two x16 video cards actaully leave you 7 active lanes, to get quad out of any AMD board forces X8,X8,X8,X8, not very high end.

The CHIVE has 68 active lanes with the Lucid Chip









Edited by Supercoolin - 12/15/12 at 12:26pm
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Ceadderman, and friends,

im going to stick with asus and just move to the CH5 Z board i dont want there sound card,i have a few other stuff with the z board im sure havent looked yet.
this way i can keep my 8350 and when it comes out steamroller.
im running now my 1000T with my ch4 extreme, it's running very very good, i keep it at 4050 or 4150 mhz most of the time. im freon cooled all the time.
-40c or more.
i just use 1 video card, is the z board the best without the sound card for the 8350 or steamroller?

i almost got the highest end Asrock 890 chipset version but wasnt sure, i keep to asus.


Supercoolin, i under stand what you're saying, my bios is good enough with me the 2002s
im sure right when i get the Z board CH5 Extreme or something better will hit

merry christmas
all the CH people
Edited by EagleOne - 12/15/12 at 12:39pm
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