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The AMD platform uses 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 GB kits. 6, 12GB etc are solely used by Intel. You'll loose dual channel mode as well thus hurting performance.
Stay with what AMD supports and life will be much easier thumb.gif

Also remember lower latency is where it's at for AMD.

Ok, great, well same question about gaming just about for the 16GB. Also, can you recomend some 16GB sticks?( i know they mabe over $60 but its ok)
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Ok, great, well same question about gaming just about for the 16GB. Also, can you recomend some 16GB sticks?( i know they mabe over $60 but its ok)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050008476%2040000147%20600006072%20600006127&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=147%7C20%2D231%2D609%5E20%2D231%2D609%2DTS%2C20%2D231%2D628%5E20%2D231%2D628%2DTS

    
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Ok, great, well same question about gaming just about for the 16GB. Also, can you recomend some 16GB sticks?( i know they mabe over $60 but its ok)

This is what I currently run http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231623 which should not be an issue for the CHIV.
The 12800 (1600) is also right there performance wise. I don't recommend the Sniper series as I don't here a lot of positive comments here on OCN. The Ripjaw-X is another series to look into as well. I ran a set of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231435 on my CHIV/1090T at 2006MHz, 9-11-9 and it worked real well. Lower latency is better.
Please do not get wrapped up in all the hype (B/S) with Samsung wonder ram lol. A big thumbs down.
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Thank you for all the help so far... It seems to be getting much more stable now...

There is one thing i cannot figure out is the disabling of apm.

D:\AmdMsrTweaker\x64\AmdMsrTweaker.exe APM=0

it says that the device isnt ready... Is it supposed to be D: or C: cannot find anything on google to help me figure that out?

I did run the exe.. and it just says hit any key. i do that then go into cmd and type that in and the device isnt ready..


Never mind just figured it out lol.. facepalm.. forgot to make a folder amdmsrtweaker in my c: lol


Edit: Now i got it stable but its throttling my cpu. I went down to 4800mhz just to see if i can get it to not get errors. well im not but now it throttles down to 3400........ temps are ok 60c is highest..

well, the folder, thats just how its on my machine, doesn't mean you have to use the exact same command biggrin.gif no need to make exact same folder, you just need to go to the program folder and wirte AmdMsrTweaker.exe APM=0.

that should disable the application power management and prevent the cpu from throttling down, don't know how it is now throttling down if you indeed disabled it.
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Question what is your NB Temps supposed to be at? With auto voltages and i turned it down to 2200mhz its still higher then 65c... I think it should be around 40c for 1.1v and 2200mhz right? This is why im getting throttled isnt it?

Iv got LOTS of airflow and its rather cool in this room, and the little fan doesnt spin up either... in fact im surprised i dont hear a thing outa ita.



Definitely need to check that the heatsinks are properly attached and touching the chips, I remember there was a problem with the heatsink being too high off the board and not touching the chip.
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Question what is your NB Temps supposed to be at? With auto voltages and i turned it down to 2200mhz its still higher then 65c... I think it should be around 40c for 1.1v and 2200mhz right? This is why im getting throttled isnt it?

Iv got LOTS of airflow and its rather cool in this room, and the little fan doesnt spin up either... in fact im surprised i dont hear a thing outa ita.




See this for details http://www.overclock.net/t/682489/official-asus-crosshair-iv-formula-extreme-club/600_30#post_9375266

It seems that some boards has bad heatsink assembly

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Took the NB/SD head sink of took all the hard ass **** thermal compound off and re attacked it.. I just used the same thermal tape for the vrm's or mosfets or whatever you call em.. there are like 30 little chips and not sure if should put thermal paste on them too or not..

Its a bit lower 61c now... I think the problem is is how hard the heat sink comes in contact with the nb sb.. it uses these screws with springs and you can only tighten them so far.. it wont let you over tighten them andthe springs. well they just dont seem to put a snug fit on things.. on the old thermal paste both chips were covered but they weren't all the way touching the heat sink. if you know hat i mean>? anyways i think i know of a solution to this.. Im going to go and try and buy some mother board screw washers (little red washers u put ont he screws) and put 2 of those on each screw so that spring has to push more and give it a tighter fit.. the only thing i wonder is can i take that tape off and just use thermal paste or if not ill just get some new thermal paste and do that.
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Here's the basic setup guide,

NB Voltage – usually auto is fine for 4.0GHz if you have a BE CPU. Non BE CPU’s may require additional volts as this is for the chipset which may need an increase when going past 260MHz CPU Bus Freq. (stock is 1.11, max around 1.3v. I have seen this as high as 1.5v in extreme cases for long periods of time.

Please clarify when there is a need to increase the motherboard NB (890FX) voltage?
Is it when the HT frequency reaches >2600Mhz OR when the cpu bus goes >260Mhz (without assuming the default multiplier x10)?
The HT frequency has a configurable multiplier, if for example I use HT 8x300MHz (just an example) which totals HT=2400MHz is there any need to mess with the motherboard NB voltage?

The way I see it I can have the cpu/NB operating at say 10x300 =3000MHz (again just a random example) and the HT at 8x300Mhz=2400MHz and I would only need to increase the cpu and cpu/NB voltage but NOT the motherboard NB voltage, is my thinking wrong?

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In weekend I tested some RAM configuration:

9-9-9-28/27/26/25/24 - on all config i had frezzing screen.

but on 9-9-9-29 so far , works fine smile.gif

I will be testing...
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Please clarify when there is a need to increase the motherboard NB (890FX) voltage?
Is it when the HT frequency reaches >2600Mhz OR when the cpu bus goes >260Mhz (without assuming the default multiplier x10)?
The HT frequency has a configurable multiplier, if for example I use HT 8x300MHz (just an example) which totals HT=2400MHz is there any need to mess with the motherboard NB voltage?

The way I see it I can have the cpu/NB operating at say 10x300 =3000MHz (again just a random example) and the HT at 8x300Mhz=2400MHz and I would only need to increase the cpu and cpu/NB voltage but NOT the motherboard NB voltage, is my thinking wrong?

Alex

As mentioned before when OCing a 1090T keep the HT Freq as close to 2000MHz +/- 200MHz as possible. Much higher and you'll start to loose performance and may add instability. Remember you can always adjust/raise the HT voltage to help stabilize the HT Freq.
You may start to see a need to increase the actual mobo NB voltage when the CPU Bus Freq goes above 260 - 265MHz. Every chipset has different needs so this is where you "MAY" need to increase. Only testing (Prime95 etc) will tell for sure on "your" system. I always test with the usual adjustments (vcore, cpu/nb, dram) till it no longer make improvements in the failure time, at this point is when I would try adding a little HT voltage followed by testing than lastly the actual mobo NB voltage.

Maybe this will help explain more about the Ref Clock (CPU Bus Freq) http://www.overclock.net/t/525113/phenom-ii-overclocking-guide
It's an older guide but packed full of useful info and I still recommend it highly.

If you're going to use the ref clock with those snipers, a 234MHz CPU Bus Freq will be a good place to start. You'll have to find your systems sweet spot of course (balance between ram, nb and cpu freqs)
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