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You may start to see a need to increase the actual mobo NB voltage when the CPU Bus Freq goes above 260 - 265MHz.
So there seems to be a relation of the NB with bus frequency (even is HT is kept low) and if the bus frequency goes above a range the NB chip will need more voltage too.

I've been doing some tests in my system the last couple of days, the system seems to be stable @4GHz with Vcore=1.44v but during prime the temperature hit 55 degree (with Skythe Mugen 2 revB ) which I consider high (although the mean was about 52 Celsius).
I know that these peak temperature will never be seen in normal operation but on the other hand my room temperature is about 20 and I expect it to go up to 30-32 in the summer.

I've settled to 3.9GHz, (18x217), the temp max is about 51 degree

Ram is set to 1447MHz , but with lower timing (7-8-7-24) compared to the specs 1866MHz/9-10-9-28 , I can increase it to 1580MHz (16.5x237 cpu) but the timings will have to be increased and I'm not sure there is a real benefit.

cpu/NB=2604 (I consider it a good compromise) and HT=1953 or 2170 (x9 or x10 , both work fine )

Voltages to default (which is 1.17 full load for cpu/NB) except from Vcore which is 1.428 full load and 1.404 idle.

Cool and quiet fully operational , drops Vcore to 1.3v and the cpu cores to 800MHz when idle

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I remember those exact temps when I first got my CHIV, running the same cooler (w/P/P GT AP-15's) seems mine was just a touch lower and managed the 4.0GHz (250 x 16).
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Is there a tweaked 3027 bios? Iv read there is but cant find a dl for it or what the"tweaks" to it are?
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running the same cooler (w/P/P GT AP-15's)
Do you mean push/pull configuration with two Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm x 25mm Fan - 1850 RPM 58.3CFM ?

Two fans should improve the air flow especially when the fins are wide like the mugen but I read that this solution is only good for low/medium volumes of air, replacing a fan with two smaller ones., with high volume fans like the one below I read that it is better to use a single fan because two fans will give worse result.
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seems mine was just a touch lower and managed the 4.0GHz (250 x 16).

I thought about replacing the stock cooler which is about 1200RPM/74.25 CFM with a faster one like SY1225SL12SH 1,900 rpm/110.31CFM which should lower the temperature but I'm not sure it's worth the noise I'll get (plus these are not PWM like the original).

The individual core temperatures were up to 39/40 degree (assuming they are shown correctly) but I suppose the 55 degree limit is on the cpu base which showed 51 degree right?
I read that the lower max temp limit is 55 degree (and the high 62) and I suppose it is for the base.

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At one point it was the core temps to watch depending on who you asked but now I've lost track. I've always gauged it as whichever is higher (core or socket temp) would be my personal limit. I used socket temp most often as a max.

The 62c is AMDs max temp which is very conservative and 55c is the recommended OCing limit to prevent instability due to heat. I've read more than one post where a member's water pump died and temps hit close to 90c and no damage done.

Here's another good read on the temps with a Thuban http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide

Yes Mugen II with Gentle Typhoons running a fan controller for everyday use. At full rpm I had a 3c-4c drop in temps under load and so quiet. My advice, if you're going to upgrade cooling solution go big or go home. Noctura D14 for air but you may still have issues at 4.2+. Going under water is where you need to go while OCing. I bought (wasted $$$) going thru 2 or 3 air coolers and fans when I could have saved a bit and just gone under water right from the start. The Rasa kits are very good, and affordable for H2O.
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So i take it no one knows were to find the 3027 tweaked bios? I remember reading about it on one of the earlier pages... I need to go and refind it. It had a link to download it but the link was broken..

Edit:
Ahhahhh, found it https://www.box.com/s/wl2ka72cl31kbvhpexq0

Well i guess this isnt going to help me get my new G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz ram to run.. Shoot... I guess it'll have to live on the shelf untill the new 1000 series mobo's come out..
Edited by Taint3dBulge - 2/21/13 at 12:31pm
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Ahhahhh, found it https://www.box.com/s/wl2ka72cl31kbvhpexq0

Well i guess this isnt going to help me get my new G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz ram to run.. Shoot... I guess it'll have to live on the shelf untill the new 1000 series mobo's come out..

Or consider the CHV-Z http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131876 which supports 2400MHz dram. I haven't heard anything lately about the 10xx series other than it could be a while.

You'd also get full usage of the 8350 rather than work-a-rounds. Wow, I just noticed they cost more now than when first released (was $139.99 opening night rolleyes.gif).
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he sound is better set to 44.1khz a 48khz 96khz o a 192khz sound card's internal asus crosshair 4 formula x-fi
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Or consider the CHV-Z http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131876 which supports 2400MHz dram. I haven't heard anything lately about the 10xx series other than it could be a while.

You'd also get full usage of the 8350 rather than work-a-rounds. Wow, I just noticed they cost more now than when first released (was $139.99 opening night rolleyes.gif).

I bought this board just cause i could get it for 120 bucks.. and also cause when it first came out i DROOLED. lol I was just going to use it just for my 1055t... But then saw all this big hype on the 8350 and thought. ah what the hell.. I also saw people were getting 2400mhz oc's outa there ram on this board.. So i thought well **** i can just buy some 2400mhz ram and just use that... But it didnt work out that way... Im going to be taking everything out of my box in the next few days to put some new thermal tape on the vrm's and put some IC Diamond thermal past on the nb and sb, and do afew other things to get that back down to under 50. It started out at 65c, now its down to 55, and i need to it be less then that, just for my own peice of mind.. The nb/sb cooler is quite different then the formula. but i got my own work around... Anyways when i put everything back in im going to take out the bios battery put all my components back in and put the 2400mhz ram in the A2 slot and see if that works.. I noticed that the timings on the ram are 10-12-12-31.. in the bios there is no 31 it only goes to 30.. Im thinkin that is why its not working... Id like to mod the bios myself and add 31 to the timings. But have NOOO idea how to do such a thing. btw im rock solid at 4.9ghz and my 1866 ram is running 2133 no problems.. but i want MORE!

Not sure if anyone would want to help in figuring out how to mod the bios to make this ram work??? That would be killer!

One last question.. My NB is way unstable after 2550 mhz.. i cant even boot past 2650 and it just boggles my mind because on the 1055t on this board i was at 3200mhz no problem..

Thanks for all the help too guys! love this forum.
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I bought this board just cause i could get it for 120 bucks.. and also cause when it first came out i DROOLED. lol I was just going to use it just for my 1055t... But then saw all this big hype on the 8350 and thought. ah what the hell.. I also saw people were getting 2400mhz oc's outa there ram on this board.. So i thought well **** i can just buy some 2400mhz ram and just use that... But it didnt work out that way... Im going to be taking everything out of my box in the next few days to put some new thermal tape on the vrm's and put some IC Diamond thermal past on the nb and sb, and do afew other things to get that back down to under 50. It started out at 65c, now its down to 55, and i need to it be less then that, just for my own peice of mind.. The nb/sb cooler is quite different then the formula. but i got my own work around... Anyways when i put everything back in im going to take out the bios battery put all my components back in and put the 2400mhz ram in the A2 slot and see if that works.. I noticed that the timings on the ram are 10-12-12-31.. in the bios there is no 31 it only goes to 30.. Im thinkin that is why its not working... Id like to mod the bios myself and add 31 to the timings. But have NOOO idea how to do such a thing. btw im rock solid at 4.9ghz and my 1866 ram is running 2133 no problems.. but i want MORE!

Not sure if anyone would want to help in figuring out how to mod the bios to make this ram work??? That would be killer!

One last question.. My NB is way unstable after 2550 mhz.. i cant even boot past 2650 and it just boggles my mind because on the 1055t on this board i was at 3200mhz no problem..

Thanks for all the help too guys! love this forum.

set bios to defaults keep all voltage setting on AUTO

look up D.O.C.P. in the bios section of the manual and use one of the profiles to set the ram


Edited by Tweeky - 2/22/13 at 8:52am
 
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