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Ive come to the conclusion that My crosshair has something wrong with the dual channel memory(controller?) Not sure what it would be called, but My ram will not run in dual channel. I ordered my board less than 30 days ago, so I can still send it back to newegg but it was open box, so I might just RMA it to asus as I want this board still.

Ive tested my brothers ripjaws in my board it wont boot in dual channel (red,red or black black) HOWEVER..it will boot in red , black.

Single channel works fine with 1 stick in all ram slots, so it isnt a ram slot issue.

My ballistix I got for my boad, have 1 stick bad. One of them wont boot in my brothers gd80 board nor this crosshair.

Talk about odds, getting bad memory and a memory issue in a board ordered the same time! arghhhh
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Great idea, this might get asus moving on recognising the problem, we did this on an Audi forum as audi seemed to be ignoring a paint warrenty claim and there was huge inconsistencies in thier replies until a post / list like this was submitted - as a result, it was taken to a high up guy as there was no denying there was a problem (call centre staff had just been saying whatever came into thier head hence the inconsitencies!)

Anyway Im writing this to try and inspire group action as the outcome of this is that I now have an (Audi approved, not just a random paint shop) Shiny re sprayed S3 on my drive, for the sake of a bit of forum pressure. I had over 3/4 of the car re sprayed for £0! It must have cost audi a fortune but they had to recognise the problem because of this one guys drive to collate the info of the victims. So going back to the crosshair IV ( sorry for the long winded story) An official list would give huge standing over individual emails, power in numbers etc...
There is a clear problem and seemingly for the sake of 30p worth of standoff and 26p to post it (in the uk) that is about 1/4 of 1% of the original cost, that cant be much to pay to ensure these people buy asus next time? Sorry for the long rant but i think its a great idea to get an official list together! rep to i0n
Thanks.
Edited by i0n - 6/21/10 at 12:06pm
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Well acording to asus, pc probe gives you the direct readings that would be shown in the BIOS so technically PC Probe shows exactly the same as what your bios shows
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I wasn't being rude. I was just stating the facts.
As it was, to me it did come off that way., And I may not totally agree with your facts, I did not dispute them to him.


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He doesn't need to spend hours/days assembling and reassembling his parts because he will never get better TRUE idle temps than those on the NB and SB. Unless he replaced the HS or added a hs-fan.
Did you read his next post? And I never sugested reassembling any of his pc, just moving it out of where he had it so it can breath


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No one said your were waisting his time by asking what TIM he used. The AS he used is fine. You are waisting his time by saying his temps were too hot when in fact they were just right.
I still think he can get better temps and imo they are a little high but still usable by that I mean well within spec

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And we all should get the same temps with a very minor variance.
But the fact is we all dont, because of different factors like where we live in the world, the type of case we have, ect...

You know, Its all good, please excuse my rant as I did get a little carried away, my bad, but please think how your post sounds to other people when they read it


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"They" (Asus) didn't say...but based on other NB chips it should be good to 105degC. Asus set the auto turn off for the NB @100degC. I set it at 70degC which is the lowest turn off option in the BIOS for the NB. The other options are 80,90, & 100
Yes Asus did say that:Hello Sir/Madam

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Normal operating temps for the chipset is between 45c at idle and 55c under load. As long as you do not get hotter than 65c you are fine.

If you need further assistance, please contact
Technical Support at 812-282-ASUS option # 2
M-F 8:30 AM - 12:00 AM EST
Sat-Sun 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM

Thank you,
Krisenda Allen
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Phone : 812-282-2787
http://livesupport.asus.com

Edited by navit - 6/21/10 at 12:11pm
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Well acording to asus, pc probe gives you the direct readings that would be shown in the BIOS so technically PC Probe shows exactly the same as what your bios shows
Some apps are accurate. I think HW Monitor by ZPUz is also accurate... but don't quote me on that.

It's just that they can never be more accurate than the BIOS. It is allways a good idea to check in the BIOS and software when you are building the system. That way later down the road when your system is all done and you just need to know your temps quickly you'll know the quirks in your software well. When you really need accurate readings the BIOS can't be beat.
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Well acording to asus, pc probe gives you the direct readings that would be shown in the BIOS so technically PC Probe shows exactly the same as what your bios shows
I have to agree with foxy, probe is the closest to the bios that i have found

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Some apps are accurate. I think HW Monitor by ZPUz is also accurate... but don't quote me on that.

It's just that they can never be more accurate than the BIOS. It is allways a good idea to check in the BIOS and software when you are building the system. That way later down the road when your system is all done and you just need to know your temps quickly you'll know the quirks in your software well. When you really need accurate readings the BIOS can't be beat.
I agree with that as well
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You would be really surprised to find that those dryer vent hoses can work wonders. Since yours is in a box and closed anyway, take the vent fans and bring them outside. That should help quite a bit. The next step would be to cut a hole in the enclosure and install some fans with some guards so your kid doesn't stick her finger in it.



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I'd love to have it outside of the cabinet but my current situation won't support it:

1.) I have a 2 year old that is attracted to the LED's on the outside of the case. Therefore if it's in the open she is at it pressing any exposed button she can find.

2.) My wife doesn't seem to think the black case with red and blue LED lights match the color scheme of our family room where my computer cabinet currently resides. Go figure

So for now I'm stuck with it in the cabinet. We're planning to replace the cabinet so for my next purchase I'll make sure I get one that is cooling friendly so to speak.
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Some apps are accurate. I think HW Monitor by ZPUz is also accurate... but don't quote me on that.

It's just that they can never be more accurate than the BIOS. It is allways a good idea to check in the BIOS and software when you are building the system. That way later down the road when your system is all done and you just need to know your temps quickly you'll know the quirks in your software well. When you really need accurate readings the BIOS can't be beat.
hwmonitor is by CPUID.
you cant monitor your temp when your CPU is on full load.with BIOS
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You would be really surprised to find that those dryer vent hoses can work wonders. Since yours is in a box and closed anyway, take the vent fans and bring them outside. That should help quite a bit. The next step would be to cut a hole in the enclosure and install some fans with some guards so your kid doesn't stick her finger in it.

I have done some work in an effort to keep it as cool as possible. I actually cut the entire back of the cabinet out to let in as much air as possible. Also I have a good 3 inches on the back of the cabinet and the wall to let plenty of air in. Finally whenever I'm actively using the computer I keep the cabinet door in the front open to let air in that way as well.

Thanks for the ideas, I'll have to see what I can do with the dryer hose. I think I actually have some extra laying around.
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Yes Asus did say that:Hello Sir/Madam

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Normal operating temps for the chipset is between 45c at idle and 55c under load. As long as you do not get hotter than 65c you are fine.

If you need further assistance, please contact
Technical Support at 812-282-ASUS option # 2
M-F 8:30 AM - 12:00 AM EST
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Thank you,
Krisenda Allen
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Phone : 812-282-2787
http://livesupport.asus.com
I do remember this from the time I was digging on the forums and forgot about it. It is a great thing you posted this. Thanks!

He asked about "the safe cut of point". To be clear, I was talking about what the chip can handle as far as the safe cut off point. Like I said, Asus set the cut of point themselves in the BIOS to 100degC. These type of chips are known to be able to handle 105degC. You can not set the safe cut off point in the BIOS for the NB bellow 70degC (that is the minimum option available).

I was not talking about the "Normal operating temps " (which is what you quoted). However..... the operating temps Asus states in your quote is what I get. Mine are 48 idle and 55C load.
Edited by i0n - 6/21/10 at 12:40pm
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