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Working real hard get my comp stable. Its a challenge to say the least. I am being impatient though. I went straight to Northbridge, then Memory, then CPU, before getting each one independently stable. The memory is passing memtest86+ with correct timings voltages but at stock speeds.
I can tell you what worked for me. CPU & CPU/NB voltages identical or close to it. DDR voltage around 2.0v on 2x2 GB's @ 2000. Until I had each setting like that it wouldn't stabilize. YMMV. Make sure your cooling is up to snuff.
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I have 0% stability with Blend tests with Northbridge Freq over 2400 MHz. Don't think the DDR voltage increase is necessary. I have memtest86+ passing at these settings but not Blend. It seems to be that perhaps its the IMC... NB frequency too high, with too high DDR3 speed/timings, and Air Cooling.

After reseating the CoolerMaster twice and reapplying Shin Etsu twice.... I am just retrying the ghetto H50 project tonight for better temps.


Everything is up and running again... I am exhausted. I applied just a dab of Shin Etsu in the center instead of an X. I didn't feel like opening up my second tube of it yet.


Also had room for all four memory heatsinks and the supplied G.Skill Ram Fans, which I re-installed.

H50:
Pump Speed: 100%
Push/Pull (Rear Exhaust): 100%
3x 120mm Intake fans on the roof, closest one is approximately 4" north of makeshift wind tunnel entrance.

<- (90cfm Fan) <- |Shroud| <- [Radiator] <- |Shroud| <- (70cfm Fan)

Not probably necessary but I used weak adhesive, non-conductive parcel tape, to help maintain a steady flow of air, to prevent leaks between fan to shroud, or shroud to fan.

Boot Up Settings:
CPU: 3.763 GHz @ 1.300v
NB: 2.75 GHz @ 1.283~1.290v
DDR3: 2000 MHz (7-9-7-24-1) @ 1.635v

Everything else is AUTO/Stock.

Temperature: Small FFTs Load Max is 54c @ 30 minutes: 0 Errors
Ambient: 24c
Motherboard: 31c

Will take more advice.

These are the settings (not the readout from LLC) I have tried.

Beginning Blends:
CPU @ 1.30v, NB @
1.286275v = Fail (Within 10 seconds)
1.300v = Fail (Within 10 seconds)
1.306v = Fail (Failed after 1 minute) 52c Temp
1.3125 = Fail (Failed after 1 minute) 50c Temp

CPU @ 1.30625v, NB @
1.31875v = Fail (Within 10 seconds)
1.325v = Fail (Within 30 seconds)

CPU @ 1.30625v, DRAM Voltage @ 1.65, NB @
1.325v = Failed (Within 3 seconds)
1.334375v = Failed (7 minute failure) @ 55c
1.340625v = Failed (2 minute failure) @ 52c

CPU @ 1.3125v, DRAM @ 1.65, NB @
1.346875v = Failed (10 minute failure) @ 55c
1.3625v = Failed (1 minute failure) @ 52c

Taking a break. This feels wrong and CPU NB is way too high.
Edited by RagingCain - 10/23/10 at 10:15pm
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post #4823 of 13131
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Hey, thanks alot that really helped i have my ram running at 1640mhz now but just to make sure...i attached a few screen shots, does this look okay to you? Sorry if i am annoying i have never really played with ram before.

Bios info:
CPU Ratio: 160
CPU Bus Freq: 205
DRAM Freq: 1640mhz
Extreme OV: Enabled
CPU & NB Voltage Mode: Offset
CPU & NB Offset Volt: 1.34
DRAM Volt: 1.70

Everything else: Auto
can you bring your northbridge higher? where is your temps at?
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can you bring your northbridge higher? where is your temps at?
Hey, my idle temps for NB are around 45 and about 56 on full load, have not seen it go over 60

is it safe to use how it currenty is?

Also i dont really want to OC much since im using a stock cooler atm... the cooler i got would not fit
Edited by robert_dk3 - 10/23/10 at 10:30pm
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Anyone know if the EK-FB ASUS Crosshair 4 - Acetal + Nickel block fits the Extreme?
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post #4826 of 13131
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I have 0% stability with Blend tests with Northbridge Freq over 2400 MHz. Don't think the DDR voltage increase is necessary. I have memtest86+ passing at these settings but not Blend. It seems to be that perhaps its the IMC... NB frequency too high, with too high DDR3 speed/timings, and Air Cooling.

After reseating the CoolerMaster twice and reapplying Shin Etsu twice.... I am just retrying the ghetto H50 project tonight for better temps.


Everything is up and running again... I am exhausted. I applied just a dab of Shin Etsu in the center instead of an X. I didn't feel like opening up my second tube of it yet.


Also had room for all four memory heatsinks and the supplied G.Skill Ram Fans, which I re-installed.

H50:
Pump Speed: 100%
Push/Pull (Rear Exhaust): 100%
3x 120mm Intake fans on the roof, closest one is approximately 4" north of makeshift wind tunnel entrance.

<- (90cfm Fan) <- |Shroud| <- [Radiator] <- |Shroud| <- (70cfm Fan)

Not probably necessary but I used weak adhesive, non-conductive parcel tape, to help maintain a steady flow of air, to prevent leaks between fan to shroud, or shroud to fan.

Boot Up Settings:
CPU: 3.763 GHz @ 1.300v
NB: 2.75 GHz @ 1.283~1.290v
DDR3: 2000 MHz (7-9-7-24-1) @ 1.635v

Everything else is AUTO/Stock.

Temperature: Small FFTs Load Max is 54c @ 30 minutes: 0 Errors
Ambient: 24c
Motherboard: 31c

Will take more advice.

These are the settings (not the readout from LLC) I have tried.

Beginning Blends:
CPU @ 1.30v, NB @
1.286275v = Fail (Within 10 seconds)
1.300v = Fail (Within 10 seconds)
1.306v = Fail (Failed after 1 minute) 52c Temp
1.3125 = Fail (Failed after 1 minute) 50c Temp

CPU @ 1.30625v, NB @
1.31875v = Fail (Within 10 seconds)
1.325v = Fail (Within 30 seconds)

CPU @ 1.30625v, DRAM Voltage @ 1.65, NB @
1.325v = Failed (Within 3 seconds)
1.334375v = Failed (7 minute failure) @ 55c
1.340625v = Failed (2 minute failure) @ 52c

CPU @ 1.3125v, DRAM @ 1.65, NB @
1.346875v = Failed (10 minute failure) @ 55c
1.3625v = Failed (1 minute failure) @ 52c

Taking a break. This feels wrong and CPU NB is way too high.
Try only overclocking 1 thing at a time.

For example....
-set everything to stock and then see how high the cpu will go and how much vcore is required for that frequency on your computer.
-Then once you figure that out set everything to stock and see how high you can turn the NB frequency and how much cpu/nb voltage is required for that frequency, with everything else still set to stock
-then do the same thing with the HT frequency if you want to OC that as well........and so on and so forth with the memory.

Good Luck.

EDIT: dude if you've got fans in the roof of your case....they should definitely be exhaust (heat rises)....extra intakes should be near the bottom.
Edited by ny_driver - 10/24/10 at 4:22am
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I did, that was the results of trying to get Blend to pass after everything else was passing.

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dude if you've got fans in the roof of your case....they should definitely be exhaust (heat rises)....extra intakes should be near the bottom.
You don't have to do this, but you should look up the 800D. Although beautiful case, it has two problems, lack of air intakes (1 fan air intake), and too much emphasis on water cooling (which sucks if you aren't WC yet.) My initial setup was to use them all as exhausts, but I wasn't pumping in enough cold air to even keep it cool with 2x 5870s and an OC 1090T. There is only one spot for a floor intake, and its used for intake.

Idle temps are fairly close to 30c, and my GPUs don't get much higher than 80c now at full load (95c before). With all that ambient heat not transfered out of the case, it was just stagnating in the GPU corner. So now I have the lower air intake of approximately 90cfm, 3 roof intakes all 90cfm, and the H50 Exhaust setup which consists of the push/pull with a 70cfm in, and 90cfm out. Might switch a roof fan for the push fan. Get it 90/90 push/pull, but its working good for now.
Edited by RagingCain - 10/24/10 at 6:27am
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RagingCain, what CPU clock are you trying to hit? 4GHz?
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I have 0% stability with Blend tests with Northbridge Freq over 2400 MHz. Don't think the DDR voltage increase is necessary.
The first thing I see is that your NB frequency is too low. NB Freq = DDR speed/2 x3 (DDR2000/2 x3 = 3000). The second thing is that G.Skill seems to love voltage well over rated to become stable. I could not get 2x2 rated @ DDR2200 @1.65v stable @ DDR2000 with less then 2.0v. If I eventually use the other 2 slots I'll have to increases the voltage again.

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Originally Posted by RagingCain View Post
Boot Up Settings:
CPU: 3.763 GHz @ 1.300v
NB: 2.75 GHz @ 1.283~1.290v
DDR3: 2000 MHz (7-9-7-24-1) @ 1.635v
Your CPU & CPU/NB voltages are too low to achieve what you want. Keep an eye on CPU & chipset temperatures. If they are too high either live with a lower overclock or improve cooling.

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EDIT: dude if you've got fans in the roof of your case....they should definitely be exhaust (heat rises)....extra intakes should be near the bottom.
Case cooling fan 101. :-) Agreed.
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Anyone know if the EK-FB ASUS Crosshair 4 - Acetal + Nickel block fits the Extreme?
Email EK. They answer pretty quickly.
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