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Dude I hate to tell you, but the core temps are too low to be possible unless maybe the ambient in your room was ~10C. If I were you I would roll with the CPU temperature.
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long shot, but if anyone is looking to sell their formula for a good price please let me know, thanks
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Well, I am all ears...

I'm sure some here are setting on the edge of their seat wanting to "spill the beans" on what little moves will give me more power out with less watts in.

-Rodger
the only way you can get more power out is to put more watts in
    
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Ok so primary questions I have are regarding the following settings under the new "Extreme Engine" section of the the advanced tab:
PWM Phase Control(can be set to "Full" or "Auto"
CPU PWM Frequency(not new but I never knew what the heck this really impacted)
CPU Voltage OCP
CPU/NB Voltage OCP

Also noted that the CPU and CPU/NB Load Line Calibrations can now be set to...i think it was "Disabled" "0%(same thing as disabled isn't it?)" "50%" and either "100%" or "Full"

Guessing this BIOS isn't really going to be an improvement unless I utilize these new settings effectively so any tips, however vague or short(I think most of you could give a better answer than I'm likely to get from Asus after you've downed a case of beer followed by ingesting an elementary school's supply worth of elmer's glue which then results in a nasty fall down some steps causing catastrophic head and brain injury leaving just slightly above the mental capacity of my late uncle who has been dead for the last decade after literally blowing his head off while trying to make his living room larger by knocking down the wall separating it from his kitchen. I doubt you care but I've written this far already so to quickly finish the story....trying to do carpentry on your own home is not a good idea if the best idea you can come up with for razing an interior wall is his homemade explosives. And please, if you do find yourself with no options except the one above, use a remote and not a timer.....and don't try to listen from the other side of the wall to make sure it's working....just get yourself out of the house.^^
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the only way you can get more power out is to put more watts in
Well, I'll have to say that isn't so. There are efficiency factors to consider in many areas.

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the only way you can get more power out is to put more watts in
not true if you can make it colder you can put in less voltage. ie LN2

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Ok so primary questions I have are regarding the following settings under the new "Extreme Engine" section of the the advanced tab:
PWM Phase Control(can be set to "Full" or "Auto"
CPU PWM Frequency(not new but I never knew what the heck this really impacted)
CPU Voltage OCP
CPU/NB Voltage OCP

Also noted that the CPU and CPU/NB Load Line Calibrations can now be set to...i think it was "Disabled" "0%(same thing as disabled isn't it?)" "50%" and either "100%" or "Full"

Guessing this BIOS isn't really going to be an improvement unless I utilize these new settings effectively so any tips, however vague or short(I think most of you could give a better answer than I'm likely to get from Asus after you've downed a case of beer followed by ingesting an elementary school's supply worth of elmer's glue which then results in a nasty fall down some steps causing catastrophic head and brain injury leaving just slightly above the mental capacity of my late uncle who has been dead for the last decade after literally blowing his head off while trying to make his living room larger by knocking down the wall separating it from his kitchen. I doubt you care but I've written this far already so to quickly finish the story....trying to do carpentry on your own home is not a good idea if the best idea you can come up with for razing an interior wall is his homemade explosives. And please, if you do find yourself with no options except the one above, use a remote and not a timer.....and don't try to listen from the other side of the wall to make sure it's working....just get yourself out of the house.^^
OCP = over current protection turn it OFF!

LLC's play with them and watch you voltage see what gives you ~stable voltage.

Freq?????????

PWN phase I put to full has to be energy savings
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long shot, but if anyone is looking to sell their formula for a good price please let me know, thanks
there are like 2 in the FS section for like $150
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You might try more front side less multiplier. Also running a higher FSB will yeild better throughput although you may need to add MB-NB voltage but that is of no consequence. It takes me 1.55 for the ~320 that I run.

Now getting into the knitty gritty, yes you are running a faster core speed then me but I know that I have more throughput then you. That being said I can run a higher core speed but would have to sacrifice (i think not tested yet) NB speed which I do not want to do because the "bottleneck" with AMD is the FSB and NB speed. I know this for a fact from testing various combos and various tests. I am not sure but I think even with you running faster then me I might beat you at something like cinebench R11.5 although I am not sure because that test is heavily weighted by core speed. For an all around best overclock what needs to be done is eliminate what ever bottleneck you can. So if you have to drop a little core speed to increase you CPU-NB and FSB so be it as you will gain performance that the core speed alone can not give you.

I am NOT trying to say my e-peen is bigger then yours because when it all comes down to it I dont really care that an i9 can kick my systems a$$ big deal we are here because we are trying to get the most out of our systems.

This disclaimer brought to you by the many trolls that have annoyed me in the past few days!
One of the first things I did was see where my FSB would stabilize. I can push it further, but my memory will not test well without moving timings quite a bit slower. I did this, just to get stabilized at about 280, and my Gflops dropped from about 71~72 to about 66~68. Since everything involves memory speeds, I didn't feel good about losing clock cycles to slow memory timings. I think I would have liked to have the G-Skill Flares, but I have what I have (at least for now). I would have more headroom for sure in CPU multiplier if I could control temps better. I am also lower on the core voltage a bit then I could be, but feel pretty safe at this voltage for 24/7 use.

This is why I'd like to find a hardware method to lower temps. It would allow me more room to play and not feel like the Pink Panther holding a lighted BOMB in my hands.

About these test. I'd think some comparisons maybe would help both of us. Since I'm more or less working on the other end of the stick then you, it may shed some valuable light for both of us to try some comparisons.

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Hey, found Cinebench 11.5 64bit (and 32bit) and ran it. Got first place in the OpenGL test among what came with the software. Not so good on the CPU side, got 4th place. I suppose there are more current testers somewhere, but thought I put this up for some to try.

It seems to barely work the CPU or GPU however, so I'm not too sure how good of a test this is. I actually shot a video of both running. Shows very little activity on either CPUID or PC Probe II.

Here's a link: http://downloads.guru3d.com/download...d9de0248868ad9

-Rodger

Edit: Forgot the other screen grab.

BTW: This OpenGL test reminded me of the game I have coming in... Actually should be here tomorrow. First PC game I've bought in over 20 years I'll bet. Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2010. I use to love to play games, back when they were all new. Might enjoy this again, since it's been soooo long ago that I played them.


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Hey, found Cinebench 11.5 64bit (and 32bit) and ran it. Got first place in the OpenGL test among what came with the software. Not so good on the CPU side, got 4th place. I suppose there are more current testers somewhere, but thought I put this up for some to try.

It seems to barely work the CPU or GPU however, so I'm not too sure how good of a test this is. I actually shot a video of both running. Shows very little activity on either CPUID or PC Probe II.

Here's a link: http://downloads.guru3d.com/download...d9de0248868ad9

-Rodger

Edit: Forgot the other screen grab.

BTW: This OpenGL test reminded me of the game I have coming in... Actually should be here tomorrow. First PC game I've bought in over 20 years I'll bet. Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2010. I use to love to play games, back when they were all new. Might enjoy this again, since it's been soooo long ago that I played them.


Give me a bit and I will upload a photo of my results running that program. I bet you will be surprised...


Edit: I dont run GL because that is GPU and mine is weak till I get my 5870's

Here are a few of my runs at various speeds, along with some Q9550 runs

Edit again: As far as memory, grab Maxxmem
and try some stuff out. I noticed that between 1600 and 2000 there was not much difference because of the bottleneck. and that going from 6-7-8-22 to 7-7-8-23 was a big difference but going 7-7-8-24 to 8-8-8-25 was not that large. My maxxmem scores are a few back let me see if I can find it.



Edited by eclipseaudio4 - 11/15/10 at 8:17pm
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