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I have heard much better reviews of the brand new A-70 revisions to be honest, be prepared to replace fans for Push Pull of course smile.gif



It will be two weeks+ before I can probably diagnose the FSB issue, I will tell you this, 254 stable (8 hour test) SHOULD NOT give you post errors at 256, so I think its a FSB "hole" I believe they are called. I could understand Windows instability or BSOD, but not POST failing from just 2 FSB with 254 being so stable at the same voltages. It might be possible to go higher than 256, but like I said it will take a few weeks to work it out. I am running at 4.0GHz and 2070 MHz DDR3 and 3070MHz NB, at 254 I think.


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Lucid Guide 1.0.4a is now posted. Added half an installation guide.


Hmmm I think you may be onto something Cain, from 250 on I was bumping fsb by 1 and retesting adjusting voltages as necessary. hit a max of 253.7(ignore turbo V evo the fsb bumps up by 1 over bios settings) above that she wouldn't post for some strange reason, which is why I settled on 251 x16.5 until I could diagnose it further, I figured I'd wait until the new sticks arrived and then try some variations of 270 etc. I've read a similar review and it was 350 fsb, it probably is just a hole...

Damn, ill post screen later, its timing out sending the request to ocn
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Nope, just a measily 4.093 GHz, but I did it with my eyes closed though. Making my guide taught me more about overclocking than it probably helped anyone else. Because of the move, I am not really working on my OC but I am just going to create a spread sheet and duplicate every clock speed between 2800 up to 4400 GHz, with varying voltages on Vcore, CPU-NB, DramV, and also varying GHz on the NB/Memory etc. Just an all encompassing chart. It should be much easier for me as this will be my 4th time making it and I will have a lame i7 to be productive with.

Kept having Kcuestag's issue after 256 FSB, I suspect instability brought on by a low voltage somewhere, because the second it was 254, it remained stable again.

HELP:
I would love some help with the Lucid Guide, I have obviously left the ATi scene (haha eclipse seems to be loving my absence) so I would love some scores from Unigine Heaven and 3DMark Vantage/3DMark 11 (when its supported) using all sorts of cards. Has to be using Lucid Hydra Logix. Need screen shots of vantage scores and the HTML output for Unigine, I know you can't print screen in Unigine with Lucid running. OH, you can't screenshot with Lucid in a few programs, that should go in the guide....

We can do non-Lucid lists as well if you choose to so we can get good comparisons of performance. We will have only two games to benchmark. My thoughts are it should be Aliens vs. Predator (DX11 & Tesselation & easy benchmarker), Metro2033 (the new Crysis), and S.T.A.L.K.E.R CoP (another beefy Xray engine.) I will also take other suggestions.

I am going to see if I can find my 5870s tri-firex and crossfirex scores too.

I'll send through some data I'm going to crunch for eclipse with the 6970's I'll run it in lucid too, tossing up between waiting and quadfiring with a 6990 or tri fire/quad fire with one or two more 6970's, will the extreme run any of these configurations?
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It will run a single 6990 + 6970 + 6970 in quadfirex, but only 6970s in Lucid unfortunately.

Although I don't want people to think me egotistical, give Lucid info another look over. I am really looking for more recommendations for the guide. Keep in mind its already lengthy, the install guide is about half finished, and trouble-shooting has yet to begin.

I am adding quirky information after that about miscellaneous info I discovered myself.
Edited by RagingCain - 12/21/10 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by RagingCain;11730413 
Have you tried just arbitrary numbers above 250? Like 275? 280? 300? I believe they would need a higher voltages accordingly.

Also confirmed a OC review site managed to get 335 MHz reference clock.

Source

Have you tried using TurboV Evo to oveclock once you are in Windows? You can save to BIOS good settings you want to keep.

I did try TurboV Evo, any OC I applied would make Windows 7 freeze... And I would need to reboot the PC with the reset button frown.gif

Any suggestion?

Or should I just go buy new RAM?
    
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I mean it could be RAM, but I never tried OCing on this board with just with FSB before either. IF YOU want my opinion, grab a bucket of patience, grab a notepad, or another computer with spreadsheets smile.gif and begin testing FSBs UP and DOWN with voltages.

Look up Reference Clock Overclocking guides. I think there are other voltages that are important for you to increment other than Vcore.
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It will run a single 6990 + 6970 + 6970 in quadfirex, but only 6970s in Lucid unfortunately.

Although I don't want people to think me egotistical, give Lucid info another look over. I am really looking for more recommendations for the guide. Keep in mind its already lengthy, the install guide is about half finished, and trouble-shooting has yet to begin.

I am adding quirky information after that about miscellaneous info I discovered myself.

Thanks mate, I'll use the time before the 6990 is released to see what the lucid guys come up with as far as support for dual gpu's and better scaling against xfire. the scaling difference is about the only reason I'm a bit skittish of the Lucid path, as really the scaling performance of Ati's new architecture in multi gpu configurations was the big decider for me, well that and it'll help us push the extreme from different angles.

Oh I re-read the Lucid guide after my last post, Mate sterling work, you're nailing it:thumb:
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I wish there was someone willing to try testing a multi-GPU card like a 5970 with the Extreme board just to check and verify once and for all that it'll work in slot 1. You know, just in case anyone asks and it'd be known for sure so there'd be no 'surprises', heh.
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For FSB "issues" NB voltage is key!(not cpu-NB but NB) for my 320 FSB I have to run 1.55V to the NB(which is why I have a 120MM 110CFM fan blowing directly at it smile.gif ) Also there are holes(places where no matter what it will not post)

Hope this helps smile.gif

getting ready to pull the trigger on another XFX 5870 v2 Altho I am really thinking about an Nvidia card???(lucid smile.gif ) Ragin I am going to check out your guide and see what it tells me(in the subtext)
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Re-edit: OK I need to know if saphire trixx works when an Nvidia card is present! Please someone be able to tell me! Ragin where you at?????

Trying to decide on if I should grab another 5870 v2 XFX $279-239 after rebate or a 470 for 250........

meh 2nd 5870 on the way.... now I will just have to wait for XFX and then get a another WB...
Edited by eclipseaudio4 - 12/21/10 at 11:34pm
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I don't think it does at all. I can't even download it without registering a 68xx. After I had to signup for what should be a bunch of Sapphire spam now. Afterburner does work for me on core voltages.... is that good enough (Beta 5) for what you need?

Here is what I think about going all pro-Lucid. If you fail to meet the requirements of compatibility, then Lucid defaults to just one video card and one Physx card frown.gif If you are okay with that or you don't play really demanding games like I do, then it should be fun and you can patiently wait for driver updates ya know?

If you go 5870, and then Lucid gives you any problems with a game you simply enable Crossfire and disable Lucid and you can still render with both cards smile.gif

What I would do is get an older nVidia card (26x/27x) which can be used as either Physx OR as Lucids 3rd GPU for benchmarking. You can see from the list that not many of the titles support 3 GPUs anyways so we won't see more for a while.
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