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Now this is my first attempt at water cooling and i have 1 major question. I currently have a Crossfire IV Extreme running a AMD 1090t Black Edition OC to 4.12 ghz with a XSPCR240 water cooling system. My system is stable and no matter what I have tried to figure out why i keep getting certain warnings every so often to pop up: Fan 1 rpm 0, Fan 2 rpm 0, Fan 3 rpm 0, NB temp high,SB temp high and so forth.Now of course there not all at the same time and its very speratic when it does show. I have already went to bios and turned all fans off and so forth and have double chk my connections and even went as far as to put a flow meter on to see if the liquid is moving. Trying to see if anyone out there can help me out. THX GUYS & GALS
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I have the same problem mate, I'm of the opinion that it's a bad install of turbo V evo I intend on installing the formula version and see if it rectifies the issue. As my NB couldn't possibly run at the warned temp of 300 centigrade without a fair bit of fire in evidence I choose not to worry about it.
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Now this is my first attempt at water cooling and i have 1 major question. I currently have a Crossfire IV Extreme running a AMD 1090t Black Edition OC to 4.12 ghz with a XSPCR240 water cooling system. My system is stable and no matter what I have tried to figure out why i keep getting certain warnings every so often to pop up: Fan 1 rpm 0, Fan 2 rpm 0, Fan 3 rpm 0, NB temp high,SB temp high and so forth.Now of course there not all at the same time and its very speratic when it does show. I have already went to bios and turned all fans off and so forth and have double chk my connections and even went as far as to put a flow meter on to see if the liquid is moving. Trying to see if anyone out there can help me out. THX GUYS & GALS
If you're totally WC'ed, then there's a chance you'll have cooling deadspots over your NB / SB that you wouldn't get with a traditional air cooled wind-tunnel effect. You might want to check that particularly the NorthBridge isn't getting too hot.

mine's at 49C while folding and I'm tempted to try reseating the heatsink with a bit of AS5
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Guy why is it that when I manually adjust overclock settings my system fails to boot but when I leave the board on auto settings it'll run upto 3.6Ghz and 1600Mhz and be intel burn test stable?

What gives?
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Now this is my first attempt at water cooling and i have 1 major question. I currently have a Crossfire IV Extreme running a AMD 1090t Black Edition OC to 4.12 ghz with a XSPCR240 water cooling system. My system is stable and no matter what I have tried to figure out why i keep getting certain warnings every so often to pop up: Fan 1 rpm 0, Fan 2 rpm 0, Fan 3 rpm 0, NB temp high,SB temp high and so forth.Now of course there not all at the same time and its very speratic when it does show. I have already went to bios and turned all fans off and so forth and have double chk my connections and even went as far as to put a flow meter on to see if the liquid is moving. Trying to see if anyone out there can help me out. THX GUYS & GALS
There are certain settings in BIOS which force 0 RPMs to display, if you have Power Control on the fans disabled, there is no data being set from Mobo to OS. I am not sure if its supposed to be like that, but it is what is. For RPMs readings, get them from BIOS under Hardware Monitor (this is where you also enable power control.)

The warnings are triggered by ASUS software only and can be disabled, at one time it reported I had 45.7v on my CPU which is a teensy bit high. Its always a spike in voltage that triggers this, a small one and its a glitch in the Extreme's software and/or PC Probe II.



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Guy why is it that when I manually adjust overclock settings my system fails to boot but when I leave the board on auto settings it'll run upto 3.6Ghz and 1600Mhz and be intel burn test stable?

What gives?
Antuk do me or everyone a favor:
Take either a photo of your BIOS settings or write down every single one (accurately) for the Extreme Tweaking page and the DRAM timing Page, and if you need to do multiple shots do so. If you want some help we need a bit more information. I know it takes time, but we can't see what you are trying to do, that will greatly speed things up rather than us guessing and checking so we can get you up and running. Don't forget APART of overclocking is a learning process and trial and error. Whatever works for us may not work for you, and vice versa, every CPU is unique, like humans (we are all little snowflakes =).) So you will have to use some patience and try things out for yourself, but we can definitely keep you in the right direction and in the "safe voltage" territory.


@Eclipse:
Eclipse I need you to PM a mod, as I would like/need another 2 posts for Q&A (I will write it) & Overclocking Voltage references for troubleshooting the board. We should have spots for these questions to be handled to help people out. Most of it will be done overtime.

The 2nd post I would like is primarily a post for 3DMark Vantage, 3DMark 11, and Heaven benchmarks, R11.5, and a few CPU based tests. We will separate the boards into each benchmark, however, we will keep a top 5 list to promote some healthy competition that anyone can get involved in. I will also maintain this post as well with your help Eclipse. I will do it the same fashion as the Lucid guide so expect top notch quality and if you don't see that, let me know so I can fix it. I am moving tomorrow for Oklahoma. I will be keeping touch via Droid2.



TO ALL 6950 OWNERS: The ATI forums are exploding right now with a BIOS that unlocks the 6950 card to the performance and shaders of the 6970 card. All though this seems amazing, I implore you all NOT TO TRY THIS just yet.

I have tried getting involved in the news and discussion but they have become overzealous spreading these "false" claims in which it beats 580 SLi and things like "there is no risk" and its ABSOLUTELY untrue and its not yet known if this will damage the cards. I am either ignored or they claim I am nVidia fanboy.

I am not saying it doesn't work or you should never install it, I am just asking you all to be patient and wait and let pros play around with it. You can get 6970 performance just by overclocking the 6950 if you are desperate for the extra 2 fps. Half of the claims are done by people who don't even have the card themselves.

I am only concerned for you all, so I am just trying to protect your brand new cards from damage and voided warranties. I honestly see this BIOS as a potential hazard until proven otherwise. There is always a reason why the 6950 cards didn't yield the potential to be 6970s. While I am not worried about the shaders/GPU core as they are physically identical, I am worried about the memory controller frying EVEN with an underclock. The memory controllers are different and the quality of memory in the 6950 is cheaper (not as highly rated) than that of the 6970. Since the cards are also physically different, I am sure they also cut a few corners on the cooling method of the 6950 and maybe even on the Memory Chips themselves (as they aren't running as hot, it wasn't necessary for the more expensive solution.) That is just opinion, but it makes sense as a way to cut costs.

The people who discovered this hack DO NOT EVEN KNOW what voltages have changed or whats running at what. They admit this themselves. People think that just by downlclocking the MEMORY they are "SAFE" but its the same thing as running a CPU IMC at 1.6v and running 800 MHZ DDR3 thinking they are safe too.

I know I sound a bit like a drama-queen, however, if you do make the decision to try at least you will be informed by me or whomever there IS RISK involved. If you want to continue then by all means do so, but at least your eyes will be opened doing so.

EDIT: I am a little annoyed the mods don't step in and caution people or even tell instigators to stop BSing. On that note, I am taking the rest of the day off the forums in preparation for the move. I don't want to say things I will regret. I have warned you guys, and I tried to warn them. Some people wouldn't learn even when their equipment is on fire.
Edited by RagingCain - 12/28/10 at 7:36am
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Antuk do me or everyone a favor:
Take either a photo of your BIOS settings or write down every single one (accurately) for the Extreme Tweaking page and the DRAM timing Page, and if you need to do multiple shots do so. If you want some help we need a bit more information. I know it takes time, but we can't see what you are trying to do, that will greatly speed things up rather than us guessing and checking so we can get you up and running. Don't forget APART of overclocking is a learning process and trial and error. Whatever works for us may not work for you, and vice versa, every CPU is unique, like humans (we are all little snowflakes =).) So you will have to use some patience and try things out for yourself, but we can definitely keep you in the right direction and in the "safe voltage" territory.
Dude let me just say a quick something, I'm NOT an over clocking newbie, I have some pretty extreme and more importantly STABLE over clocks under my belt with several processors. The first one being a 3.5Ghz AThlon x2 5600+ from way back in the day. I know what I'm doing it's just compared to my deceased MSI 790FX GD70 this bored is lacking in the over clocking ability department.

Right now I've got my RAM, HT Link and NB all running below spec so they they don't interfere with my CPU overclock.

Currently Linx testing at 4.2Ghz with 1.5Vcore, With 1.5Vcore being the highest I want to run even when I'm under water.

But as you noted, this board is different then my last, and I just haven't got the spare time to spend a good week eeking out every last bit of performance so I wouldn't mind some rough voltage settings to give me a help along.

CPU Vcore will obviously depend on my CPU.

So rough voltage settings for :

260-300Mhz HT

2600-3000Mhz NB

NB voltage itself, As it's running 3 GPU's might need a slight bump.

Would the SB need a bump when running drives in RAID?

Any help would be awesome as I can get done that little faster
Edited by antuk15 - 12/28/10 at 12:55pm
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Yea ive tried what u had said ragingcane but still not changing maybe i might get lucky and it could just be a error with asus. iv e been getting some weird warnings and i know with some of the temps it says im getting my comp would have blown up by now
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Now this is my first attempt at water cooling and i have 1 major question. I currently have a Crossfire IV Extreme running a AMD 1090t Black Edition OC to 4.12 ghz with a XSPCR240 water cooling system. My system is stable and no matter what I have tried to figure out why i keep getting certain warnings every so often to pop up: Fan 1 rpm 0, Fan 2 rpm 0, Fan 3 rpm 0, NB temp high,SB temp high and so forth.Now of course there not all at the same time and its very speratic when it does show. I have already went to bios and turned all fans off and so forth and have double chk my connections and even went as far as to put a flow meter on to see if the liquid is moving. Trying to see if anyone out there can help me out. THX GUYS & GALS
Install the ASUS AI Suite 2 and that'll give you your temps direct from the diodes, best way to see what they are really running at.

Also go into BIOS under HWMonitor and disable all warnings if you haven't already, if it's just fan warnings then run them from 4-pin molex to 3-pin fan header converters
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