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OK guys release notes for 1304 BIOS Crosshair FORMULA: (autor Bingo13 from Asus Team)

Quick Overview of Critical 1304 BIOS Settings -
PWM Phase Control:
-This option allows user to choose whether or not the CPU VRM power phases should change dynamically with respect to the change of CPU load. This option along with CPU and CPU/NB LLC will allow the user to fine tune the PWM and CPU voltages for improved overclocking or limiting voltage overshoots during overclocking.

CPU Voltage OCP:
-This option allows the user to disable the “Over Current Protection” of the CPU. Enabling this option may allow the CPU to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD, but might assist in high overclocks, especially under extreme cooling. Please treat this option with extreme care to prevent permanent damage to the CPU.

CPU PWM Frequency:
-This option allows user to override the switching frequency of the CPU PWM controller. Raising this option may assist in ensuring power delivery is more stable under overclocking conditions but with the cost of higher operating temperatures of the CPU PWM controller.

CPU Load-Line Calibration:
-This option allows user to decide whether or not the motherboard should lower the CPU Vcore as the current consumption of the CPU voltage raises to meet the CPU load-line spec defined by AMD. Users can now choose other levels of Load-Line Calibration in the 1304 BIOS to lower the amount of voltage the Vcore is raised up to or over normal load line voltages as CPU loading increases. Most air/water overclocks should use 50~75% levels for maximum clocks along with tuning of the VRM options. Due to the design of the AMD Phenom series, realize that certain voltage overshoots will be present in Core 0.

CPU/NB Load-Line Calibration:
-This option allows user to decide whether or not the motherboard should lower the CPU/NB voltage as the current consumption of the CPU/NB voltage raises to meet the CPU load-line spec defined by AMD. Users can now choose other levels of Load-Line Calibration in the 1304 BIOS to lower the amount of voltage that CPU/NB is raised up to or over normal load line voltages as the CPU/NB loading increases.

CPU/NB Voltage OCP:
-This option allows user to disable the “Over Current Protection” of the CPU/NB (i.e. the memory controller). Enabling this option may allow the CPU/NB to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD. Please treat this option with extreme care to prevent permanent damage to the CPU.


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Hey all...

I am considering upgrading my Asus 890GX board come Tax Return time in the next couple months, and I'm interested in upgrading to the Forumla FX... probably the Extreme if I can afford it.

I had originally wanted one of those last year when I built my Sig Rig but ended up getting the 890GX on an Open Box deal from Newegg to save money and the 890FX models were not yet released to retail, they had another couple months to go before they were available.

I have a few questions though!

1. Which slot on the forumla is the x4 slot? Specs state that it has 3 PCIe slots at x16 and one at x4. I am going to presume the last, bottom slot is the x4?

I am proud of my Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty PCIe Pro series card, and am of the strong opinion that no Mobo On Board audio will ever be able to compare. I also, use a TV Tuner card, though at the moment it is PCI only. I may consider upgrading that to a PCIe model if I need to, but for now I'm using a cheap PCI TV card just to receive a feed from my Comcast digital box.

I might also consider going Crossfire (2 cards) someday in the future... so I would want an 890FX board that fits my needs, and I'm really preferring to stay with Asus!

SO.

2. Would the Formula do it for me and how good is it for overclocking? I read that the Extreme is better for overclocking then the Formula. Hell my 890GX is a decent overclocker, I can get up to 3.9ghz on my CPU with a bit of tweaking...

3. Would an 890FX Asus board really make much difference there?
     
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [CyGnus];12068366 
OK guys release notes for 1304 BIOS Crosshair FORMULA: (autor Bingo13 from Asus Team)

Quick Overview of Critical 1304 BIOS Settings -
PWM Phase Control:
-This option allows user to choose whether or not the CPU VRM power phases should change dynamically with respect to the change of CPU load. This option along with CPU and CPU/NB LLC will allow the user to fine tune the PWM and CPU voltages for improved overclocking or limiting voltage overshoots during overclocking.

CPU Voltage OCP:
-This option allows the user to disable the “Over Current Protection” of the CPU. Enabling this option may allow the CPU to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD, but might assist in high overclocks, especially under extreme cooling. Please treat this option with extreme care to prevent permanent damage to the CPU.

CPU PWM Frequency:
-This option allows user to override the switching frequency of the CPU PWM controller. Raising this option may assist in ensuring power delivery is more stable under overclocking conditions but with the cost of higher operating temperatures of the CPU PWM controller.

CPU Load-Line Calibration:
-This option allows user to decide whether or not the motherboard should lower the CPU Vcore as the current consumption of the CPU voltage raises to meet the CPU load-line spec defined by AMD. Users can now choose other levels of Load-Line Calibration in the 1304 BIOS to lower the amount of voltage the Vcore is raised up to or over normal load line voltages as CPU loading increases. Most air/water overclocks should use 50~75% levels for maximum clocks along with tuning of the VRM options. Due to the design of the AMD Phenom series, realize that certain voltage overshoots will be present in Core 0.

CPU/NB Load-Line Calibration:
-This option allows user to decide whether or not the motherboard should lower the CPU/NB voltage as the current consumption of the CPU/NB voltage raises to meet the CPU load-line spec defined by AMD. Users can now choose other levels of Load-Line Calibration in the 1304 BIOS to lower the amount of voltage that CPU/NB is raised up to or over normal load line voltages as the CPU/NB loading increases.

CPU/NB Voltage OCP:
-This option allows user to disable the “Over Current Protection” of the CPU/NB (i.e. the memory controller). Enabling this option may allow the CPU/NB to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD. Please treat this option with extreme care to prevent permanent damage to the CPU.


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is it just me or do the CPU OCP and CPU\NB OCP descriptions seem confusing\wrongly described surely enabling OCP stops overcurrent from occuring the way its written appears to suggest the opposite.

I really love this board but the voltages are still a mess with even with this newer bios, I wish that the voltages were way more stable than they are,

I see significant changes in cpu voltage with all LLC settings, ie leaving LLC off or @ 50% I get significant vdroop when load is applied and with LLC set to full I get .011v more vcore when load is applied, all other boards I have had in the past have had way more stable voltages than this board does maybe .003 fluctuations max,

i would like to know other peeps experiences
Edited by Dynomutt - 1/19/11 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by Dynomutt;12069945 
is it just me or do the CPU OCP and CPU\NB OCP descriptions seem confusing\wrongly described surely enabling OCP stops overcurrent from occuring the way its written appears to suggest the opposite.

I really love this board but the voltages are still a mess with even with this newer bios, I wish that the voltages were way more stable than they are,

I see significant changes in cpu voltage with all LLC settings, ie leaving LLC off or @ 50% I get significant vdroop when load is applied and with LLC set to full I get .011v more vcore when load is applied, all other boards I have had in the past have had way more stable voltages than this board does maybe .003 fluctuations max,

i would like to know other peeps experiences

Actually it looks correct to me. If you dissable OCP protection it should allow more voltage to flow through.
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Originally Posted by eclipseaudio4;12070204 
Actually it looks correct to me. If you dissable OCP protection it should allow more voltage to flow through.

you sure????, it seems you have just posted the opposite to what it says

just to clarify it says regarding OCP " Enabling this option may allow the CPU to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD"

just checked in bios and CPU OCP options are enable and disable

I assumed enabled means that CPU is protected from over current, disabled means cpu is not protected from over current.

Therfore if this is the case I would expect the post to say

disabling this option may allow the CPU to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD



do you see what I mean or am I being dumb \ not reading it correctly
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Originally Posted by Dynomutt;12070315 
you sure, it seems you have just posted the opposite to what it says

just to clarify it says regarding OCP " Enabling this option may allow the CPU to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD"

just checked in bios and CPU OCP options are enable and disable

I assumed enabled means that CPU is protected from over current, disabled means cpu is not protected from over current.

Therfore if this is the case I would expect the post to say

disabling this option may allow the CPU to consume more current than the safety range defined by AMD



do you see what I mean or am I being dumb

I really don't know my mind is in 5billion places. It really depends on how the wording in bios is and I am going to be lazy and not look cause I have some school crap to do.
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Originally Posted by cjc75;12068559 
Hey all...

I am considering upgrading my Asus 890GX board come Tax Return time in the next couple months, and I'm interested in upgrading to the Forumla FX... probably the Extreme if I can afford it.

I had originally wanted one of those last year when I built my Sig Rig but ended up getting the 890GX on an Open Box deal from Newegg to save money and the 890FX models were not yet released to retail, they had another couple months to go before they were available.

I have a few questions though!

1. Which slot on the forumla is the x4 slot? Specs state that it has 3 PCIe slots at x16 and one at x4. I am going to presume the last, bottom slot is the x4?

I am proud of my Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty PCIe Pro series card, and am of the strong opinion that no Mobo On Board audio will ever be able to compare. I also, use a TV Tuner card, though at the moment it is PCI only. I may consider upgrading that to a PCIe model if I need to, but for now I'm using a cheap PCI TV card just to receive a feed from my Comcast digital box.

I might also consider going Crossfire (2 cards) someday in the future... so I would want an 890FX board that fits my needs, and I'm really preferring to stay with Asus!

SO.

2. Would the Formula do it for me and how good is it for overclocking? I read that the Extreme is better for overclocking then the Formula. Hell my 890GX is a decent overclocker, I can get up to 3.9ghz on my CPU with a bit of tweaking...

3. Would an 890FX Asus board really make much difference there?

1. the first PCI Express x16 slot always work at x16, independently of how many video cards are installed; the second PCI Express x16 slot always work at x8; the third PCI Express x16 slot works at x16 when one or two video cards are installed in slots one and or three or at x8 when slots two and three are used, the fourth slot always work at x4

2. its a great overclocker and should at least match your current board

3. I doubt it would make a significant \ worthwhile difference unless ur using at least 3 graphics cards as your current board supports crossfireX already

I alos have a cheap PCI DVB-T TV Tuner card and it works great no need to upgrade to PCIe TV Tuner unless ur going to get an HD capable one, standard PCI seems to work well enough for standard def broadcasts
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Actually it looks correct to me. If you dissable OCP protection it should allow more voltage to flow through.

this. as far as i know, asus has always written their bioses in such that disabling ocp protection does exactly that. that's how i've always interpreted it, at least.
    
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this. as far as i know, asus has always written their bioses in such that disabling ocp protection does exactly that. that's how i've always interpreted it, at least.

You are right OCP does not allow more power to flow if you disable it it will let the power flow, i tested this and my +12v line dropped a bit but if you disable it you have to play with CPU PWM Frequency in the 400/500 range (CPU will go hotter by a few degrees)
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