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*waves* thought i would stop in and say allo.....hope to have new rig up n going in the next week or so. then its down to business=P
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I just got my motherboard this bad boy is nice i can't wait for to do my 2-Way CrossFire XfX HD 5830's
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i got the crosshair extreme 4 xmas from my gf and brought the 1055t 95 watt version processor yesterday and just installed it. in everest and aod im getting core temps of 10-12 an 17 in load cpu is at 30 to 34 load, is this right
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So....do I enable OCP or disable...confused.....I am on water and running at 4 ghz...
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Originally Posted by mav2000;12076317 
So....do I enable OCP or disable...confused.....I am on water and running at 4 ghz...

I would leave it on, I never had an issue of it holding back my overclock. I only think OCP is an issue when doing Extreme benchmarking with high volts, frequencies, and LN2.

What it sounds like is that they are definitely making the Formula bios to match the Extreme bios.
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i got the crosshair extreme 4 xmas from my gf and brought the 1055t 95 watt version processor yesterday and just installed it. in everest and aod im getting core temps of 10-12 an 17 in load cpu is at 30 to 34 load, is this right

All six core processors from AMD (so far) have a problem with the DTS (temp) sensor. We have all been going by the Motherboard CPU socket temperature (I add 3-5c off of that for a really good guess at CPU temp.)

You can't just add 13c all the time because as you heat it up, they work better, but its not the point, they should be 99% correct all the time. In my opinion I think AMD should apologize for this screw up.
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*waves* thought i would stop in and say allo.....hope to have new rig up n going in the next week or so. then its down to business=P

Hope you enjoy your stay! Always post pictures of rigs!
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Originally Posted by KillerMike84;12076208 
I just got my motherboard this bad boy is nice i can't wait for to do my 2-Way CrossFire XfX HD 5830's

Congrats! Although I would have gone with something meatier for GPUs, you should expect somewhat good performance in games! A third card would be about the same performance as two 5870s though!

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Originally Posted by cjc75;12068559 
Hey all...

I am considering upgrading my Asus 890GX board come Tax Return time in the next couple months, and I'm interested in upgrading to the Forumla FX... probably the Extreme if I can afford it.

I had originally wanted one of those last year when I built my Sig Rig but ended up getting the 890GX on an Open Box deal from Newegg to save money and the 890FX models were not yet released to retail, they had another couple months to go before they were available.

I have a few questions though!

1. Which slot on the forumla is the x4 slot? Specs state that it has 3 PCIe slots at x16 and one at x4. I am going to presume the last, bottom slot is the x4?

I am proud of my Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty PCIe Pro series card, and am of the strong opinion that no Mobo On Board audio will ever be able to compare. I also, use a TV Tuner card, though at the moment it is PCI only. I may consider upgrading that to a PCIe model if I need to, but for now I'm using a cheap PCI TV card just to receive a feed from my Comcast digital box.

I might also consider going Crossfire (2 cards) someday in the future... so I would want an 890FX board that fits my needs, and I'm really preferring to stay with Asus!

SO.

2. Would the Formula do it for me and how good is it for overclocking? I read that the Extreme is better for overclocking then the Formula. Hell my 890GX is a decent overclocker, I can get up to 3.9ghz on my CPU with a bit of tweaking...

3. Would an 890FX Asus board really make much difference there?

Because of the platform you are coming from, I wouldn't get the Extreme but spend the extra cash on increasing performance else where on your current system.

From what I understand about the PCI-Express slots its that they all share lanes. When you start running out of lanes, thats when slots get "downgraded" all though there is virtually no performance difference with todays GPUs at 8x or 16x.

The first slot (if it supports 16x) will always be 16x. If you had 3 slots, and 32 PCI-Express lanes and you use 1 and 2, then slot 1 is 16x, and slot 2 is 16x. If you use all 3 slots, the first 1 is 16x, the second slot becomes 8x, and the third is the remaining 8x.

I don't 100% remember how many lanes are on the Formula's Northbridge Chipset has, but I think 32 sounds right, so you can run 16x/16x or you can run 16x/8x/8x. In the Formula's case they incorporated two more separate channels. One is a dedicated 4x PCI-E 2.0 lane, and the others are your standard PCI 2.2 lanes. They were able to push the PCI 2.2 lanes (which is common now) to the Southbridge chipset, and the dedicated 4 lanes of PCI-E were squeeze on to the Northbridge. They do not piggy back or come from a pool of PCI-E lanes. This means two things, you are guaranteed open usable lanes, BUT, its dedicated to 4x (so it can never be any higher, unlike other PCI-E slots.)

Since the PCI-E lanes work in variation of highest to lowest, they always place dedicated slots last (unless otherwise stated by manufacturer/manual.)

With the spacing of the slots, the PCI slot positions, you can easily utilize 2 slots for GPUs, 1 slot of PCI, and one the final slot of PCI-E for dedicated 4x (sound card.) That is assuming you have DUAL-Slot style video cards (all the latest cards require two physical spaces next to each other to fit in there, hence, dual slot.)

The Formula seems to be a slightly better overclocker too, people have mentioned most of the records seem to be on the Formula as opposed to the Extreme. Which kinda makes sense, the Extreme has all the features of a motherboard for some using either mixed GPU setups, or someone benching with LN2/DICE. I do believe the Extreme has a few better parts & pieces though, but I don't know how much of a difference makes since the Formula is top notch too.

Changing your motherboard isn't going to magically unlock your processor the land of 4.5/5.0 GHz with a stock cooler at stock voltages, as long as you are aware of that, and make an informed decision. Once you get used to the BIOS, I believe you will appreciate your purchase over time. Secondly the board is real finicky with memory so make sure your memory is on the QVL to ensure compatibility. A few people have dived in with the purchase and had serious issues getting their RAM stable, but they just put in memory they had been using and didn't ensure compatibility prior too, and of course stress ensued.

Getting this board will not greatly change the speed of your computer. That would require a high end 1090T/1100T CPU and 2000~2133 MHz RAM to make a noticeable difference for you so keep that in mind. I hope some of that helps.


I think lads, now that Icarus is fully operational, I will be selling the Extreme, Dominators, 1100T, and the Noctua NH-D14, in a package deal. I am only thinking about it this moment. I am not jumping into it, but if you know someone who might be interested let them know.

Its not going to be cheapers.
Edited by RagingCain - 1/20/11 at 7:11am
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Hey guys, I'm following this thread for some time now and got some great answers to my questions. I'm using the Extreme with a 1090T @ 4 GHz on air (Coolermaster V8) and with a TriFire Asus Matrix 5870's and a dedicated Asus Matrix GTX 285 for PhysX.
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Ok guys I am looking for some help here. I am 12 hours prime 95 stable, but am getting a BSOD when gaming. I thought that it may of been caused from my TRI SLI bridge on a SLI setup, but when I backed the OC off and went back to stock the BSOD went away.

I am not sure how to figure out what is causing this BSOD, and the computer restarts too quickly to tell what the stop code actually is. Other times it just locks up. The Lock up/ BSOD only happens while 3D gaming, which for me as of right now only includes WoW and Battlefield BC2.

Any clues, suggestions, or other tid bits of advice?

@ wheth4400: I ran into the same issue (BSOD and white screens with sound still playing) with my TriFire and 1 physX card. I figured it can't by my 1200W PSU lacking, so I connected an extra PSU plug to the MB (how are the called?). Issue didn't go away. But connecting the second extra PSU plug did the trick and it's stable now! thumb.gif
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Does anyone know if Tri-Fire + PhysX is doable with this board?

@ Antuk15: Yes it is, but my PhysX is still not working 100%... quess I need a fresh install of Windows and try again.
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yeah, ill get a pic up soon=)
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Hi guys need some help. I tried starting my computer today and it just won't start. the fans, the pump and hdd stats up and I get a orange and red light start for a milli second.but then they go off. I removed the cmos battery for 5 minutes and cleared cmos but still no go. Need some help guys. The four lights at the bottom come on as well.
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you using the extreme/formula, need someting plugged into cpu fan header, i did this an got beep codes 2 long 5 short
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my cpu temp in everest is saying 30 on idle and going to 34 when i stress like my 965 did. so a guessing this is the one im going have keep eye on for overclocking.
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