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hey guys....got a bit more time than i thought before the beasty goes fully live, and was thinking about pulling the heatsink just to see if i can get temps a bit lower, idle at38-42 depending on ambient , question is after you remove the screws what the best way to get heatsink off without damage to chipset, assuming there kinda stuck together, gently twist heatsink?
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Guys, your help would be appreciated here.

I have 4 GB Corsair XMS3 9-9-9-24 1T running at 1667 MHz on my CHIV. I would like to lower the timings a bit. What sort of number should i aim for? 8-8-8-24? 7-8-7-24? And fot a kit with stock voltage of 1.65, what would be an approximate safe max voltage?

Thanks
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hey guys....got a bit more time than i thought before the beasty goes fully live, and was thinking about pulling the heatsink just to see if i can get temps a bit lower, idle at38-42 depending on ambient , question is after you remove the screws what the best way to get heatsink off without damage to chipset, assuming there kinda stuck together, gently twist heatsink?
thats what i did
if its the original pad it comes off easy
    
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hey guys i know im going to get laugh at cause of this question. but oh well starting up my build for my new/old system and i am unable to figure out how to load pis on this site. plz help ive done work logs on others but for some reason cant figure it out on here any ways any help would be apreciated. thx
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hey guys i know im going to get laugh at cause of this question. but oh well starting up my build for my new/old system and i am unable to figure out how to load pis on this site. plz help ive done work logs on others but for some reason cant figure it out on here any ways any help would be apreciated. thx
ok there are two ways.
1.) put them on a hosting site(photobucket) while looking at the picture on that site right click and select copy image location. Next in you porst where you want the image click the mountain button (it is near the insert link button) control v and there you go.
2.) add them as attachments. scroll down from your post text window and you will see manage attachments. Click that and then upload.

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Guys, your help would be appreciated here.

I have 4 GB Corsair XMS3 9-9-9-24 1T running at 1667 MHz on my CHIV. I would like to lower the timings a bit. What sort of number should i aim for? 8-8-8-24? 7-8-7-24? And fot a kit with stock voltage of 1.65, what would be an approximate safe max voltage?

Thanks
I would not go over 1.8v however these newer chips seem to be very touchy with voltage. If I give my stick 1.75 with my stable settings they will not boot.
Edited by eclipseaudio4 - 1/21/11 at 2:44pm
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Due to the high number of instances of memory problems/questions on which ram to buy I am putting together a Guide.

First, you need to know that the high end Asus boards are picky when it comes to RAM. If you want to be safe get something on the QVL or something that many people are using with success with your board/CPU combo.

Next, Do not limit your overclock by buying 1333Mhz or lower ram! Even 1600Mhz RAM may limit your overclock. This is due to the limited number of dividers.

Now if you have a black edition CPU you can overclock with Multiplier only. Cool, but you will not see the memory throughput of someone that overclocks the FSB will if IMC/CPU-NB speeds are the same and Core speeds are similar. This is because there are two main bottlenecks with systems that are dual channel. The first being the FSB and the second being the IMC/CPU-NB speeds.

On to timings, Timings also play a big role in memory throughput, and you will see big changes when going from certain latencies to others. For me when I go from cas 7 to cas 6 I see a HUGE increase in throughput. However when I go from cas 8 to 7 I see very little difference.

IMC/CPU-NB limits, I can run 2000Mhz 7-9-7-24 but can not get much of an overclock on my IMC/CPU-NB. If I run 1600Mhz with a IMC/CPU-NB overclock I can see greater throughput then when running 2000Mhz. This is due to the IMC/CPU-NB bottleneck.

All in all when selecting RAM there are four things to look at.
1.) Are they confirmed compatible
2.) Is the RAM speed going to hold me back
3.) Are the timings decent.
4.) Is the voltage decent.

One is easy, look at the QVL or other members rigs.

Two is easy as well you should be looking at ram that is above 1600Mhz IMHO 2000MHz+ is where you want to be.

Three, decant timings vary upon memory speed. cas 9 is insane nowadays even for 2000Mhz RAM.
2000Mhz look for cas 7 or 8
1800Mhz cas 7
1600Mhz cas 6
anything lower and you are wasting you time.

Formula Tested RAM:
Gskill Trident Tweeky
Extreme Tested RAM:
Gskill Flare Tweeky, Eclipseaudio4

I am going to be editing this guide to include links as well as the QVL's for both boards. If you see anything that you think needs work let me know! (PM's please, dont clutter the thread.)
Edited by eclipseaudio4 - 1/21/11 at 7:52pm
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post #7037 of 13131
very nice guide!!
geil evo one 2133 cl9 work perfect with c4f
Edited by nikpoth - 1/21/11 at 4:33pm
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I have been using
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=217
on my Formula

and
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=276
on my Extreme
and I have not had any problems with them
    
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aight guys well im a moron i new i was uploading my pics the right way but i ended up haveing a bad ssd card well anyways i started up my work log for my Mountain Mod case so if u want to see it here is the link to the work log:

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aight guys well im a moron i new i was uploading my pics the right way but i ended up haveing a bad ssd card well anyways i started up my work log for my Mountain Mod case so if u want to see it here is the link to the work log:
http://www.overclock.net/case-mod-wo...l#post12095721
Hope U guys like it
I fixed the link for you
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