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**Contagion Review**PowerColor Radeon 5830**First Glance**Updated**Overclocking**

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Introduction
ATI has just released the new Radeon HD 5830. This card is placed between the 5770 and the 5850 in terms of performance. ATI has deemed this card as more of a 58XX card hence it's name.
The card is slightly larger than its successor, the 5850, and it draws slightly more power. This is due to the reason it runs off a higher core and memory speed to comendate for having a lower number of SP's, or Stream Processors.

Technical Specs
825Mhz Core Speed
1080Mhz Memory Speed
1120 SP's
1x DVI
1x HDMI
1x Display Port
Max Resolution of 2560x1600
ATI Crossfire Ready
DirectX 11 Capable
EyeFinity Support

This card has been taking a lot of heat lately regarding its high cost, higher power draw, and size.
I will be putting it up against a GTX 280 to see a comparison to a card that it is supposed to perform around the speeds of.
Enjoy.


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System of Test
Phenom II B50 x4 @ 3.8Ghz
2x 2gb OCZ "Black" 1600 7-7-7-21 1T
PowerColor Radeon 5830 (8.703 Drivers)
OEM GTX 280 (191.07 Drivers)
MSI 790FX-GD70
Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb


The Testing
3DMark06
3DMark Vantage
Crysis Bench
Far Cry 2
Call of Duty 4
Call of Duty WaW
Call of Duty MW2
OFP: Dragon Rising
Prototype
Fallout 3
Stalker Call of Pripyat
Bad Company 2 (Full Game)
Dirt 2
Heaven Benchmark
Need for Speed Shift


3DMark06
1280x1024 Default Settings

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
18092 Marks | 18036 Marks
SM2 - 7417 | SM2 - 7077
SM3 - 7977 | SM3 - 8258
CPU - 5404 | CPU - 5404


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3DMark Vantage
1280x720 Default Settings

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
GPU - 14066 | GPU - 16528
CPU - 13089 | CPU - 13133


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Crysis
1920x1080 4xAA Very High DX10

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
FPS - 19.605 | FPS - 22.76

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Far Cry 2
1920x1080 8xAA Ultra Settings

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
AVG FPS - 46.96 | AVG FPS - 31.96


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Call of Duty 4
1920x1080 4xAA Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 51 | Min FPS - 41
Max FPS - 239 | Max FPS - 179
Avg FPS - 115 |Avg FPS - 99


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Call of Duty World at War
1920x1080 4xAA Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 70 | Min FPS - 42
Max FPS - 291 | Max FPS - 215
Avg FPS - 114 | Avg FPS - 76


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Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2
1920x1080 4xAA Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 34 | Min FPS - 52
Max FPS - 120 | Max FPS - 176
Avg FPS - 70 | Avg FPS - 82


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Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising
1920x1080 2xAA Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 42 | Min FPS - 52
Max FPS - 92 | Max FPS - 100
Avg FPS - 59 | Avg FPS - 67


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Prototype
1920x1080 4xAA Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 32 | Min FPS - 23
Max FPS - 102 | Max FPS - 95
Avg FPS - 64 | Avg FPS - 59


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Fallout 3
1920x1080 8xAA 15xAF Ultra Settings

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 10 | Min FPS - 13
Max FPS - 65 | Max FPS - 65
Avg FPS - 57 | Avg FPS - 57


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Stalker: Call of Pripyat
1920x1080 4xAA HDAO ON

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Day - 29.4 FPS |
Night - 29.1 FPS |
Rain - 29.9 FPS |
SunShine - 22.1 FPS |


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Battlefield Bad Company 2
1920x1080 4xAA Very High DX10

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 14 | Min FPS - 15
Max FPS - 180 | Max FPS - 146
Avg FPS - 58 | Avg FPS - 60


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Dirt 2
1920x1080 4xAA DX10 Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 53 | Min FPS - 33
Max FPS - 88 | Max FPS - 59
Avg FPS - 67 | Avg FPS - 50


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Heaven Benchmark
1920x1080 8xAA 16xAF

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
FPS - 18.4 | FPS - 21.7
Score - 462 | Score - 547


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Need for Speed Shift
1920x1080 8xAA Very High

GTX 280|Radeon 5830
Min FPS - 38 | Min FPS - 35
Max FPS - 62 | Max FPS - 70
Avg FPS - 50 | Avg FPS - 55


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Comparison Conclusion
This card is supposed to be a 4890 with DX11. Well, with the new 5 series cards there should be no comparison to the previous generation. These cards bring out exceptionally lower power draw, DX11, EyeFinity, overclocking nonsense, smaller die size, along with just everything you could think of redone.
Performance wise yes, I would place the 5830 at the 4890 levels, however, I do not expect it to stay there. The drivers I am using are some modified 10.2 BETA's that ATI has on their site. They are pretty terrible. With future driver support I expect this card to be able to slide on right behind the 5850 in terms of performance.


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Overclocking
At the moment, the card does not have any sort of software voltage control.
The overclocks I used for testing are all on stock volts.


Clocks
Stock/Overclock
Core:825/980
Mem:1050/1180


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3DMark Vantage
1280x720 Default Settings

Stock|Overclock
GPU - 16528 | GPU - 18532


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Crysis
1920x1080 4xAA Very High DX10

Stock|Overclock
FPS - 22.76 | FPS - 26.31

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Far Cry 2
1920x1080 8xAA Ultra Settings

Stock|Overclock
AVG FPS - 31.96 | AVG FPS - 37.2


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Battlefield Bad Company 2
1920x1080 4xAA Very High DX10

Stock|Overclock
Min FPS - 15 | Min FPS - 20
Max FPS - 146 | Max FPS - 152
Avg FPS - 60 | Avg FPS - 82


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Heaven Benchmark
1920x1080 8xAA 16xAF

Stock|Overclock
FPS - 21.7 | FPS - 25.3
Score - 547 | Score - 636


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Temps
Furmark Extreme Burning Mode

Auto
Load - 69C
Fan Speed - 49%

Manual
Load - 56C
Fan Speed - 100%

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Final Thoughts
ATI is a few steps ahead of Nvidia right now, and they know that. ATI has it's full spread of DX11 card out and cards like the 5830 are just filling gaps. The very balsy retail price for this card is sitting in the mid $200's which in all fairness, is too high. That being said, this card is a great performer.
As of right now there is no software voltage control which I hope will get fixed with new driver updates, bios updates, or just supportive software. So I am open to just about anything to get the voltage control working, because as shown above, this card shows a great performance increase off of a fairly minor overclock.
At stock I would place this card between the 5770 and 5850 leaning slightly towards the 5850 side of things. That stock voltage overclock placed it right at the 5850 performance level. Keep in mind the drivers on this thing are very new. Since it uses a lot of the same features as the other 58XX series cards, I do not expect too big of a performance increase, but I do expect an increase.
As for the power consumption and size, if you own a 5850 you are going to overclock it, if you aren't then skip this paragraph. I suspect that if you were to raise the 5850 core speed to match the 5830's speeds, they would draw similar power. Maybe even the 5850 drawing more power since the excess of SP's. The power consumption should not be the deciding factor when purchasing this card. It does not play a big enough role in the card's production value to really have any affect on the card's credibility. In 2D clocks, the idle power draw is tiny, just like the rest of the 5 series cards. While in 3D mode, even while overclocked the power draw is very small considering the generation before it. The size of the card is the only thing that could potentially be an issue. The size limits the consumers that can purchase this. It is the size of a 5870 which means that a good sized Mid-Tower or a Full-Tower is required to have enough room to fit it which needs to be checked before purchase.
Overall I think this card is a very good contender with the potential to be the best bang/buck card on the market, but right now, with the current drivers and prices, I am sad to say that it isn't. If this card hit the $220 and below range, it is the perfect card for a mid-budget gamer.

Key Points of this summary
Performs around GTX 280 level (4890)
Overclocks to 5850 (more potential with voltage control)
Length of a 5870
Slightly more power draw than a 5850
Maturing drivers are always good to look forward too
Needs to be about $200-$220

I hope you found this helpful.
Contagion out.

Edited by Contagion - 3/11/10 at 3:51pm
    
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Nice! Was it noisey?
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Impressive for newb drivers. Good temps as well.

When do we get overclocked results?
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Nice! Was it noisey?
Virtually silent until 80% fan speed. At 100% it is probably around 32dba.

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Impressive for newb drivers. Good temps as well.

When do we get overclocked results?
In a minute. I am working on the OC now. Difficult considering there is no software voltage control. At least MSI Afterburner won't let me...
    
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if you send me 2, i'll see how they run is CFX for ya.
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Great Work! looking forward for the OC results Good luck
    
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Performance was never the thing for me that made me not want the card. The price. It performs closer to a 5770 and is priced more like a 5850. It performed well I think though

The other thing is, can we expect as much on drivers? 5770/5850/5870 all had a new architecture. This one just makes a few adjustments to the tried and true architecture of the 58** line. I'd expect some more improvement compared to other cards improvements in the coming drivers, but much less overall than we've seen for other cards.

If they drop to ~200$ though, and do show good improvement, I may sell my 5770 and buy a pair, rather than a second 5770. We'll see
    
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Nice comparison as always. Pretty disappointing card though. Really gets its ass kicked in the ones it loses.

Totally off topic, but you say he 5770 has improved ~20% with drivers. How much of that is from 10.2/10.3? Mine has been sitting in the closet since 10.1.
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Nice comparison as always. Pretty disappointing card though. Really gets its ass kicked in the ones it loses.

Totally off topic, but you say he 5770 has improved ~20% with drivers. How much of that is from 10.2/10.3? Mine has been sitting in the closet since 10.1.
I haven't done any FPS benchmarks but my 5770 scored a 11k at 960/1375 with 10.3 drivers. It used to score 10.5k with 9.12, 10.1, also I dont feel FPS drops when I play games like I used to with the card.
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How well does it OC?
 
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