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post #21 of 400
Wow. The Prius was already known to have issues with it's regenerative brake controller not applying brakes, and now they're running away as well?


Toyota, seriously, honest up. Your computers are glitching. Cars are running away. FIX IT OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS COUNTRY!


I can fix it for you, Toyota. Pay attention, I'm only saying this once.


Go back to a cable operated throttle. They tend to be more reliable, they tend to last longer, and they tend to warn drivers that they're going to stick long before they actually stick. To top it off they only stick as far down as the driver presses it. This typically is below 3/4 throttle for a modern car, so it won't go flying completely out of control. Besides, noone keeps your cars for the 20+ years it takes for an accelerator cable to wear out, so it's a moot point. They're crushed by then.

Secondly, make sure the brake pedal is mechanically attached to the same hydraulic brakes we've been using for 70 or 80 years now. No computers in the way, no nonsense. That way, if all else fails, the driver can still stop the car.

Thirdly, you might wanna make sure the brakes are capable of overpowering the engine. Do NOT do this electronically, as that seems to be your weak point. Either make the engine weaker than the brakes or put some six-piston Brembos on everything, I don't care.

Lastly, make sure your automatic has a direct cable attachment to the shift lever. This way, if for some reason unbenkownst to the rest of us, the car still runs away out of control, the driver can force the transmission into neutral. Ensure this is done hydraulically within the transmission, not electronically within the transmission, as again you've proved you can't make reliable electronics.


Follow these four steps, Toyota, and you'll notice your cars will stop running away and you might just be able to live this mess down in 10-15 years.
Edited by TestECull - 3/9/10 at 1:00am
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Things aren't letting up much for Toyota. Did Ford didn't even have it this bad...
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A CHP patrol officer caught up to the Prius about 20 minutes later and used a loudspeaker to tell the driver to apply his emergency brake in tandem with the brake pedal, Landeros said.
I am in no way defending Toyota, but this guy needed to be told to do something like this?
    
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"I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny . . . it jumped and it just stuck there," Sikes, 61, said at a news conference. "As it was going, I was trying the brakes . . . it wasn't stopping."

OK hold on. What type of Prius? He got the golden ticket of Prius'es if this real. He got the accelerator getting stuck problem and the brakes failed in one hole mess? I think this needs to go under investigation. It seam like to me he is mixing Toyota recalls to get out of a ticket. Also why are the major of problems I here about this subject are mostly from old people.
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Originally Posted by ljason8eg View Post
The same moron that requires the push to start to be held down for three freakin seconds in order to kill the motor in an emergency, and the same morons that seemingly can't figure out the problems plaguing most of their later model cars.
I've NEVER driven a car that can't shift into neutral at speed... if Toyoyo decided to be the first, then they deserve whatever they've got coming.
post #26 of 400
If you put your car in neutral it will then be freewheeling. Auto or manual, when the car is in neutral the engine cannot put power to the wheels. Now that in itself won't stop you, but you will no longer be gaining forward momentum. Also friction will slow you fairly quickly. The only risk is on some cars they don't have a rev limiter...and with the computer gunning the motor it could blow the engine.

But at least you get to live. Really the issue here is that people don't understand cars. Its such a simple issue to solve, you just have to keep your head and use logic to solve the problem.

Case in point, Chevy Cobalts are being recalled due to a steering issue. Basically the electric motor overheats and you lose the power boost. A lot of people these days have never driven a vehicle without power steering, so they think they have lost steering and give up and crash.
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"I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny . . . it jumped and it just stuck there," Sikes, 61, said at a news conference. "As it was going, I was trying the brakes . . . it wasn't stopping."

OK hold on. What type of Prius? He got the golden ticket of Prius'es if this real. He got the accelerator getting stuck problem and the brakes failed in one hole mess? I think this needs to go under investigation. It seam like to me he is mixing Toyota recalls to get out of a ticket.
Well its pretty easy to tell if he was lying or not. First, did he call 911 before any law enforcement officer was pursuing him? And secondly, if he was applying the brakes to the point they got so hot they wouldn't stop anymore, it would be extremely obvious by looking at them.

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I've NEVER driven a car that can't shift into neutral at speed... if Toyoyo decided to be the first, then they deserve whatever they've got coming.
Neither have I and I totally agree.
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"I pushed the gas pedal to pass a car and it did something kind of funny . . . it jumped and it just stuck there," Sikes, 61, said at a news conference. "As it was going, I was trying the brakes . . . it wasn't stopping."

OK hold on. What type of Prius? He got the golden ticket of Prius'es if this real. He got the accelerator getting stuck problem and the brakes failed in one hole mess? I think this needs to go under investigation. It seam like to me he is mixing Toyota recalls to get out of a ticket.
That doesn't make sense. How would he be getting out of a ticket if he called 911.
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post #29 of 400
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That doesn't make sense. How would he be getting out of a ticket if he called 911.
Easy he seen a cop taking radar. He flew by, seen the cop, then called 911. By the time the cop makes a U-turn hes getting a call about a run away Prius.
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If you put your car in neutral it will then be freewheeling. Auto or manual, when the car is in neutral the engine cannot put power to the wheels. Now that in itself won't stop you, but you will no longer be gaining forward momentum. Also friction will slow you fairly quickly. The only risk is on some cars they don't have a rev limiter...and with the computer gunning the motor it could blow the engine.

But at least you get to live. Really the issue here is that people don't understand cars. Its such a simple issue to solve, you just have to keep your head and use logic to solve the problem.

Case in point, Chevy Cobalts are being recalled due to a steering issue. Basically the electric motor overheats and you lose the power boost. A lot of people these days have never driven a vehicle without power steering, so they think they have lost steering and give up and crash.

Hopefully people that dense just give up and crash off a cliff... I mean, damn, have people never even run out of gas, had the motor stall, and had to pull over without power steering?

If you haven't experienced that, then GET THE HELL OFF THE ROAD. You're a danger to yourself and everyone around you. What are you going to do if you run out of gas, go carreening into the median and cause a giant pileup?

God I hate people so much.
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