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Originally Posted by SporkofdooM View Post
you can downshift by manually moving the lever from D to 1, 2, 3, whatever depending on your car.

Downshift when your throttle is stuck and you might have a little case of poof goes the engine though
Computer won't let the transmission downshift if it will over rev the engine in the lower gear.
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Brakes not working? Something is very fishy about this...
I dont know if anyone else has heard about this before but i've seen it on the news several times, There is some kind of fault in the electronics of the system.

Toyota claims they have a counter safety part thats supposed to stop this from happening but it dont seem like it's working lol.


On top of that information, Toyota has recalled a big number of cars because of this. I've been seeing on tv that they are offering a lease with 5 years no interest thats how bad it's gotten.
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I dont know if anyone else has heard about this before but i've seen it on the news several times, There is some kind of fault in the electronics of the system.

Toyota claims they have a counter safety part thats supposed to stop this from happening but it dont seem like it's working lol.


On top of that information, Toyota has recalled a big number of cars because of this. I've been seeing on tv that they are offering a lease with 5 years no interest thats how bad it's gotten.
This guy's model doesn't have the braking problem. That's for the 2010 models. They're completely different brakes.


EDIT: Just watched this story on the TV and they said the cops pulled him over 1st, not he called the cops.
Edited by Pings - 3/9/10 at 3:58pm
post #204 of 400
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Yea this is true. I drove a straight drive since before I got my permit up until recently. Around 6 years. It's all I ever drove. When I got an automatic I instantly felt like I had no control over the car and it still feels weird to this day. It's been 8 months. I like the automatic in stop and go traffic but other than that I prefer a straight drive(manual).
I've driven standard my whole life, right up to an 18-speed tractor trailer, and I can't understand how people drive automatics. You have no control over the torque applied to the drive wheels which is insanely dangerous in bad weather conditions and emergency driving situations. The odd time I drive someone else's car and it's an automatic, I hate the experience.

Plus you save on repairs and gas mileage, an added bonus to most people.
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Barlett says Consumer Reports has done extensive testing on how to regain control of vehicles experiencing sudden acceleration. Drivers who experience sudden acceleration should put the transmission into neutral, he says. They should not pump the brakes. “If you put it into neutral, you will retain full steering and full braking capability. This will save your life.â€
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Toyota is gonna loose their REP big time with this and the Oil sump problem. If you're going to buy a Toyota. Get a 3 year Toyota.
    
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Toyota is gonna loose their REP big time with this and the Oil sump problem. If you're going to buy a Toyota. Get a 3 year Toyota.
Not in my opinion. I've owned Toyota vehicles my whole life, and I'm the only person I know not plagued with constant vehicle issues like my American car owning friends and family members. Toyota is experiencing an isolated incident that can happen to any company, in any industry. Remember Seagate and the bricking firmware? That doesn't stop me from buying their products. These things are fluke accidents and mistakes, you can't hold a company responsible for them since they are unavoidable.
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i think it is the driver, something sounds fishy there. He could do so many thing to stop but instead he called 911!? Someone is trying to bring toyota down.
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LOL! They call that a runaway car. That's like a runaway smartcar hitting 12mph. If my car runs away it won't be found again. Hell, it'll probably launch itself clean off the planet.
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Manuals are more efficient than auto in almost every car both are options. Autos do not have a direct link from the wheels to the engine like a stick shift does. More power, more efficiency, more fun.

Fatigue could happen if you're city driving for hours. On the highway long distances it's not bad. I drive to Michigan and Penns. on a monthly bases, and it's not uncomfortable with my 5spd in the least.
Perhaps, but the best automatic transmission's are superior to a manual gearbox.

Auto manufacturers are moving away from manuals and only offering them purely as a nostalgic resonance... Simple as a tool to appease the "Purist."
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lol..........no?

Manual cars offer MUCH more control of your car in more situations than an automatic.

You can use the engine to slow down the car if your brakes crap out by shifting down.
You can control your torque directly for icy, muddy situations.
You can choose to change gear at lower revs to save petrol or you can choose to change gear at higher revs if you want to go all out.

No way in heck an auto will ever grant you the same amount of control.

Comfort is just about the only thing that's superior to driving manual and even that is subjective/
No... Modern automated manuals are far superior to mechanical manual transmissions.

The 8-speed automatic in the Lexus ISF

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The IS F doesn't offer a manual transmission--and nobody's going to complain. Instead, standard is an eight-speed automatic with manual mode and paddle shifters. While the transmission uses a conventional torque converter in first gear, in manual mode the lock-up clutch remains engaged from second through eighth, directly connecting the engine's output to the rear wheels (lift off the gas, and the engine compression is immediate, as with a conventional manual transmission). Adding to the "manual" feel is ultra-fast shifting; Lexus claims the tranny can change gears in just 100 milliseconds--as quick as the Ferrari F430's F1 box.
This sums up manual transmissions, and the parasitic loss involved:

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Nissan quotes a 0.2-second time required for shifts, but this is simply the time that elapses between ordering a shift at the steering-wheel paddles and accelerating in the next gear. What isn't mentioned is that rather than coasting with the clutch disengaged during that time (as happens during a 0.10-second Ferrari F1 shift or a 0.15-second BMW SMG shift), power is still flowing through the previous gear. Those precious tenths add up in other cars, but torque interruption is imperceptible in the GT-R. Manual shifts in the Porsche or Corvette consume about a quarter of a second each, and there are at least three of them in a quarter-mile run.
Ferrari's F1 gearbox
Nissans' Dual-clutch gearbox in the GT-R
Porsche's 7-speed Dopplekuplung(PDK) in the Panamera, Turbo, Cayman and 911.

Manual transmissions aren't offered in most of the cars I listed because they are obsolete to their dual-clutch couterpart.

The reason is because the gear-shifts are impossible for a human to replicate in something like a DCT along with gear ratios that are fixed for every scenario. This eliminates "rev matching" to find an engines power band.

And something tells me that you haven't driven a modern DCT or DSG gearbox because it allows you to slow the car down by downshifting also.

This is called a "jake brake" in trucks. A mechanism that allows the engine to slow the vehicle down.

And this "driver involvement" argument has no legs because you can only argue this circumstantially, not factually. There is nothing stopping a driver of a manual gear-box from doing other frivolous things while drive. Conversely, there isn't anything stopping a automatic driver from being more attentive than a manual gear-box driver.
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