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Toyota just released preliminary findings on the case. Not only could they not replicate the issue on the same vehicle, but the black box inboard told them the man pushed on the brake and gas pedals 250 times throughout the incident. Basically, he wasn't going 90 to 0 and back again, but it's very possible he was going 90-85 and back again to try and cook the brakes...
Hmm that could explain everything, but you'd think the officer following him would have noticed the speed keep decreasing when the brake lights came on, then increasing again when they went off.
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hm i guess that proves it. if he was alternating pedals then that obviously kills the safety feature and proves he was faking. case closed! lol
 
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hm i guess that proves it. if he was alternating pedals then that obviously kills the safety feature and proves he was faking. case closed! lol
Yep, that does explain it. There are a few good ways to 100% end the problem he was having...either way he he is stupid.
Edited by bruestle2 - 3/16/10 at 12:59am
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Your engine is stronger than your breaks. If your engine is stuck on full, your breaks will never work. They will slow you down temporarily, but then they will stop working eventually.
Not true. http://www.caranddriver.com/features...tion-tech_dept

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I would like to see the same tests on a heavier vehicle where you have to start worrying about the breaks melting due to the fact that there is significant more momentum to stop and more engine power.

Though, it is good to know that for cars you can actually stop. Though, even on that mustang you can see that the breaks are starting to have little effect for the 100-0 test. Just think if they were using older breaks and not brand new ones.

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We also tried one go-for-broke run at 120 mph, and, even then, the car quickly decelerated to about 10 mph before the brakes got excessively hot and the car refused to decelerate any further.

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I would like to see the same tests on a heavier vehicle where you have to start worrying about the breaks melting due to the fact that there is significant more momentum to stop and more engine power.

Though, it is good to know that for cars you can actually stop. Though, even on that mustang you can see that the breaks are starting to have little effect for the 100-0 test. Just think if they were using older breaks and not brand new ones.
Note that's for the Mustang with 500hp an average sedan has 125-175hp.
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I would like to see the same tests on a heavier vehicle where you have to start worrying about the breaks melting due to the fact that there is significant more momentum to stop and more engine power.

Though, it is good to know that for cars you can actually stop. Though, even on that mustang you can see that the breaks are starting to have little effect for the 100-0 test. Just think if they were using older breaks and not brand new ones.
The brakes aren't going to melt exactly. The rotors will either get too hot or the fluid will boil. Either one will not be good.

The mustang has a huge percentage of its weight in the front, and nearly 500 HP. It doesn't get much worse case scenario than that as far as street cars go.
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lol..........no?

Manual cars offer MUCH more control of your car in more situations than an automatic.

You can use the engine to slow down the car if your brakes crap out by shifting down.
You can control your torque directly for icy, muddy situations.
You can choose to change gear at lower revs to save petrol or you can choose to change gear at higher revs if you want to go all out.

No way in heck an auto will ever grant you the same amount of control.

Comfort is just about the only thing that's superior to driving manual and even that is subjective/
Google "Direct Shift Gearbox" (DSG) audi/vw.

Does everything you ask for and then some. Superior to manual in every way. Although, "mechanically" speaking, it's not auto either.
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Hmm that could explain everything, but you'd think the officer following him would have noticed the speed keep decreasing when the brake lights came on, then increasing again when they went off.
The officer only came on scene during the final portion of the debacle. He easily could have cooked the brakes in the first 15 minutes, so that he could have laid on the brakes 100% while the officer was following without slowing down a bit.

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For an underexperienced driver (or one who just drives like a grandma all the time), they could cook the brakes by not pushing the pedal in far enough. They might be used to putting 2 lbs of pressure on the pedal to stop normally, and "stomping on it" might only mean 5 or 6 lbs of pressure. By the time they figured out that they have to push harder than that to get it to slow down effectively, it might've been too late.

Don't know how to explain the police officer's situation in the Lexus a while back. He knew how to drive, he knew how to stop hard and stomp on the brakes. Must have just been a failure of multiple things at once.
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Can't wait till Toyota sues this guy for everything he has. Honestly I think everybody should sue him because of his dumbasstery.
    
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