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I have been looking heavily into the new Conroe Intel chips because unlike most of you, I have a strong loyalty with Intel, in my house I have 1 AMD X2 Dual Core 4400+ powered machine but other than that I have 2 P4 3.0 530 Prescotts, a P4 1.5 Northwood and a Celeron 466, all 4 of these computers have been awesome (for their speeds, obviously I wouldn't say my Dell 1.5GHz P4 is comparable to my 2.75GHz AMD dual core lol) and I just feel confident using Intel CPUs, call me crazy. So anyways, when I was doing some Googlin and searching some other forums I came accross a thread where people were saying that the regular Conroes (non EE/XE) will work with i965x and i975x chipsets so I was wondering will it work with my nF4-SLI Intel Edition chipset (with a BIOS update perhaps) because if so then I wouldn't need a new system in March like i had planned, I could just get 2GB of DDR2 667, 1 or 2 7900GTXes, another HDD for RAID0 and a Conroe CPU and maybe that CM Stacker 830 case

Sorry if I got off topic a bit, basically will Conroe work with my current mobo?
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Heh, I wish I had to think about two 7900's! I hear that the Conroe will support DDR1066... Might want to look into that, those 2 7900GTXes would be so sweet.

Conroe is suppose to work ONLY with 975X, nothing said yet about the Nforce chipsets. It does not work with 955X though. From what I hear about Conroe, it will do around 10-12 operations per clock (blowing AMD 9 away), and starting frequencies will be 2.8 and it will go up to 4.0Ghz....

Thats going to be one sweat proessor.
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Why do you think I am jumping up and down in anticipation? LOL! Also, 65nm process means the same kinds of 4.5+GHz overclocks on air as the Presler chips!

Also, dual 7900 is pretty unlikely in actuality, infact I may end up getting 1 in March and maybe SLIing them in June for my birthday or around Christmas time. From what I read 1 7900 is about equal to 2 X1900XTs so I would be all set on being better than my brother's dual X1900XTs in CrossFire, I must be better than him
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Indeed it will be a sweet processor hopefully helping intel win a few customers and keep a few, but the thing that makes me weary is that it is based on a pentium M and p3 it will be interesting to see how it runs.

Another thing u may want to consider, do u really think that amd aren't going to realease any new processors to rank against the conroe?
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does it really sound reasonable that one 7900gtx will be better than two x1900xt's? it doesnt to me and i dont care about that early benchmark, we need more tests and drivers for both cards.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Mongoose
Indeed it will be a sweet processor hopefully helping intel win a few customers and keep a few, but the thing that makes me weary is that it is based on a pentium M and p3 it will be interesting to see how it runs.

Another thing u may want to consider, do u really think that amd aren't going to realease any new processors to rank against the conroe?
I am thrilled about Conroe because it doesnt have Netburst. Apparently they are inharently cool too... which means better overclocking!

I wonder what the price range is going to be on these puppies?
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Evil-Mongoose, you do know that the PIII/P-M architecture is superior to the P6/net-burst architecture used by Pentium 4's, right? Infact a current gen Pentium M dothan is actually as fast or faster than a 3.4GHz Pentium 4 in most games. And according to most timelines and roadmaps I have seen, not only is AMD's answer to Conroe coming in late '06-07, but it is actually pretty lackluster, the only thing they have in Q2 06 is their AM2 revisions to their current CPUs which pretty much only add DDR2 667 support.

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does it really sound reasonable that one 7900gtx will be better than two x1900xt's? it doesnt to me and i dont care about that early benchmark, we need more tests and drivers for both cards.

......7900 has 32 pipelines to X1900s 16, so it sounds perfectly reasonable to me, especially considering a X1900 is clocked at either 625 or 650 depending on XT or XTX while a 7900 will be clocked over 700MHz!
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does it really sound reasonable that one 7900gtx will be better than two x1900xt's? it doesnt to me and i dont care about that early benchmark, we need more tests and drivers for both cards.
Well that doesn't necessarily mean that it's twice as fast; just that it can beat out two X1900XTs in crossfire. If you think about it, it's not all that hard to believe. In certain games, like Age of Empires III, for example, the 7800GTX512 can beat out two 7800GTX512s in SLI. It's not all that hard to believe that the 7900 could do so against two X1900XTs in crossfire.
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doesnt the 7800gtx have 24 pieplines? and x1800xt has 16 as well right. then why isnt the gtx twice as fast as the xt? ati isnt using the same pipeline system as nvidia so that is partially irrelevant.
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Also felt like I should add something about your post . I don't really know about compatibility, but that Conroe is going to be something. If athlon doesn't come out with anything to top it, I might replace the X2 4800+ in my secondary rig with the new Conroe; never really like Intel, but I have to admit this one sounds good; although I do believe that AMD will release new processors to challenge that.
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