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Hey. Im currently looking at getting myself a new PC. The problem is i have quite a small budget only £500-£600 and i would need a monitor with that as well. Im obviousely not looking at getting a top spec computer but i would like to be able to upgrade it easily and not have to buy lots of new parts just to upgrade my graphics card for example. Another problem is im in UK which means i dont get access to newegg I would like to know what sort of specs i should look at and some ideas as the best place to purchase from.
I have looked through lots of threads here already and it seems the opy 144 is a nice value cpu and i would be looking at a 6600-6800 graphics card. The motherboard wouldnt need sli as i would never have the money to afford 2 cards but if i ever did some into money that can be easily sorted out i suppose. The computer would be for gaming so would obviousely need to be able to handle the latest games and be as future proof as possible. Also i would like to be able to oc it so it would be nice to have decent parts that can oc well.

Not that im expecting to much for £500
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Would an opteron actually be a good choice considering i would have cheaper mobo? Would i still be able to oc it to a decent rate or would i be better off with an Athlon?
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Well the only difference I can see between the Opteron and the Athlon is the Opteron has 1mb of L2 cache and the Athlon has 512kb. If you ask me you would be better off going with the Athlon and using the extra money somewhere else. I have an Athlon and it's doing fine. Don't get me wrong, if you come up with the money for an Opteron get one.

Don't skimp on RAM, the power supply, or your motherboard. Ask around in the RAM forum what the best bang for your buck is. As for the PSU get a Sunbeam Nuuo. For the motherboard I like DFI alot. I also hear that MSI and Asus have nice Nforce 4 boards.

As far as a graphics card I would go with the GeForce 6800GS. This baby can over clock and it is a nice solid mid-range card just stock.

To save money get the parts now and stick with stock cooling and then upgrade as you get the money.

Any case will do for now. Ask around for one of the better cheap cases.
    
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Thanks!
Another question off that though. What would be the best place to spend the money? Is it more important to have a powerful CPU or is it better to have a good graphics card? Also as i am in the UK i struggle to find places to buy parts from. All the best sites people seem to link to are US, does anyone know a good site/shop to buy parts from in the UK?
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Originally Posted by Snerp
Well the only difference I can see between the Opteron and the Athlon is the Opteron has 1mb of L2 cache and the Athlon has 512kb. If you ask me you would be better off going with the Athlon and using the extra money somewhere else. I have an Athlon and it's doing fine. Don't get me wrong, if you come up with the money for an Opteron get one.

Don't skimp on RAM, the power supply, or your motherboard. Ask around in the RAM forum what the best bang for your buck is. As for the PSU get a Sunbeam Nuuo. For the motherboard I like DFI alot. I also hear that MSI and Asus have nice Nforce 4 boards.

As far as a graphics card I would go with the GeForce 6800GS. This baby can over clock and it is a nice solid mid-range card just stock.

To save money get the parts now and stick with stock cooling and then upgrade as you get the money.

Any case will do for now. Ask around for one of the better cheap cases.
Just a little correction here.

The AMD ATHLON 64 is both available in 1Mb L2 cache and the 512Kb.
The Sandiego core is 1Mb L2 cache including the FX cores except for the FX60 (Toledo) which is 2x1Mb L2 cache.


As for UK online sites, check out this sites FAQ/GUIDE..here



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Thanks!
Another question off that though. What would be the best place to spend the money? Is it more important to have a powerful CPU or is it better to have a good graphics card? Also as i am in the UK i struggle to find places to buy parts from. All the best sites people seem to link to are US, does anyone know a good site/shop to buy parts from in the UK?
This seems to be the British "newegg.com"; try it:

www.overclock.co.uk

Also, if you plan on gaming, go for a stronger grphx card, but if you plan on working/multitasking, etc. go for a stronger cpu. I'd said go Opty 144 and a 6800 Ultra or the more affordable XT. I can run BF2 and nearly all the highest grphx without lag, and Im on a 6600GT.
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Ok thanks a lot
Guess its down to some good hard searching for the best prices I was very suprised to see you can get very good systems for quite cheap.
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Otherwise I would try Tigerdirect.com, I believe they ship to UK. But I am not too sure. They are like the next best thing after newegg. Or you could try Pricewatch.com they got some good stuff.
Hope this helps!
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well as i'm currently in the market to build a new rig aswell so might aswell help a fellow out (seen's how im from england aswell),now i dont mean to flood overclock.net with websites but not really another way to help so sorry,the system i was going to build was this (and im on a budget much the same )
Cpu: althon 64 3700+ san deigo
Mobo: EPoX EP-9NPA+ SLI
Ram:Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Kit
Gpu:Gigbyte GF 6600gt turbo 128mb

thats lot comes to about 400gbp
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=313411&cks=SPK

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Product...6&GroupID=1273

but you need a case,psu and a screen aswell,so like said above, buy a cheap case (ebuyer.com is good for that,uk and usa site)
psu isn't a place to save money (i was looking at hiper psu (type r series) but there are lots of good choices out there so just have a look and post your thought for advice
as for a screen are you looking at buy a tft or are you going for just a screen?

Edit** if you need a hard drive i suggest you look on mircodirect (link above) as in there clearance corner they have a couple of 160gb's for 35-40 gbp thats a steal
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I was just going to grab a cheap screen and upgrade it at a later date. Thanks for the links and setup very helpful!
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