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You gotta get that HTT over 300 or it will never work without crashing...post your CPU Z memory speed screen...if your ram isn't capable of running at 133 or 166 that could be your problem
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post #52 of 61
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Originally Posted by MADMAX22
hey there ive had that same ram for over a year now and with my modules in a asus 8av deluxe it performed very well, i found that a 1T would work up to about 220 or so after that i would have to change it to 2T

the max my ram could go up to was about 284 if i remember correctly running with timings of 2.5-3-3-7 2T, so you should be able to get a pretty high speed ram there

oh and the max voltage i ever used was 2.8vdimm and it worked quiet well
did you have the version that used TCCD or TCC5? if they were TCCD You could prob get them higher w/ tweaking. the 1T/2T deal was probably something to do w/ your mobo... my Asus board can't run 1T past 240htt
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My advice to you is to the the timing loos: 3-44-9, and get rid of the 1T command rate, and the 8T burst length, and then try to run at 1:1 ratio at 270, Should have positive effect on the performance in comparement to using a divider.
If it doesn't work out, try to set the timings the the most loos timings your mobo has to offer.
Some guys had it at 250 MHz without majorly altering the timings, Increasing the Vdim should help,
I'd say that it's probably TCCD ram, and should take 2.9V easily.
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did you have the version that used TCCD or TCC5? if they were TCCD You could prob get them higher w/ tweaking. the 1T/2T deal was probably something to do w/ your mobo... my Asus board can't run 1T past 240htt
they are tccd and yeah it was my mobo that couldnt handle the 1T above like 220 and i could have gotten it higher maybe but my mobo was a limiting factor (i tried just about everyhting)
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My advice to you is to the the timing loos: 3-44-9, and get rid of the 1T command rate, and the 8T burst length, and then try to run at 1:1 ratio at 270, Should have positive effect on the performance in comparement to using a divider.
If it doesn't work out, try to set the timings the the most loos timings your mobo has to offer.
Some guys had it at 250 MHz without majorly altering the timings, Increasing the Vdim should help,
I'd say that it's probably TCCD ram, and should take 2.9V easily.
But loosing timings is like performance lose .I've heard using tite timings on amd systems is good, so i loosened them as much as my Vcore can support which was 268FSB other than that i cannot hit higher due to my vcore. Iam not allowed to go higher than 1.55.
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yes, while loosening up the timings will give you decreased performance you can almost always get that loss back and then some by increasing the frequency!
loosen up the timings and find their max... then you can tweak them after a bit to get some of that performance back.
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post #57 of 61
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But loosing timings is like performance lose .I've heard using tite timings on amd systems is good, so i loosened them as much as my Vcore can support which was 268FSB other than that i cannot hit higher due to my vcore. Iam not allowed to go higher than 1.55.
Preserving a 1:1 ratio between the FSB and the DRAM will prove to be utilirian rather then using tight timings with a divider...
I would set the command rate to 2T, and the Brust length to 4T...
As for the actual timing, Set it to 3-4-4-10 and try to run at 270 Mhz with 1:1 ratio, Or at the highest speed that was proved to be stable...
If it wouldn't boot loos the timings some more, say 3-5-5-12...
If you will manage to get the DRAM and the FSB running at 1:1 ratio(which is quite possible with your RAM), you will experience a huge benifit in performance.
You ram is TCCD module therefore it should easily take 2.9V.
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But loosing timings is like performance lose .I've heard using tite timings on amd systems is good, so i loosened them as much as my Vcore can support which was 268FSB other than that i cannot hit higher due to my vcore. Iam not allowed to go higher than 1.55.
It's a balancing act and depends what apps you run etc and there's no generic answer to which is the best.
I've always found that tight timings are normally better for the A64. Eg. my ram is faster 1.5-3-2-5 @ ~200Mhz than 3-4-4-8 @ ~250Mhz in games, SuperPi and 3DMark.
However, if you can push the Mhz upto around 300Mhz, then you might find that to be the quickest option.
Best way to find out is to run some benchmarks and compare.
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yeah yeah .. i need more vcore to run 273 , so i gotta wait for the new mobo and let u know lol.
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It's a balancing act and depends what apps you run etc and there's no generic answer to which is the best.
I've always found that tight timings are normally better for the A64. Eg. my ram is faster 1.5-3-2-5 @ ~200Mhz than 3-4-4-8 @ ~250Mhz in games, SuperPi and 3DMark.
However, if you can push the Mhz upto around 300Mhz, then you might find that to be the quickest option.
Best way to find out is to run some benchmarks and compare.
This is foreseeable, How ever running a divider will not produce any better performance at the tightest timings then a ram that running on 1:1 ratioin with a CPU will on loosen timings.
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