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Because you're a blind consumer buying on looks.

I'm no electrical guru either, but I can read the numbers and figure out which is better.
Oh no, I read the numbers and the JonnyGuru review of the unit. I just figured it wasn't worth my time to worry about something so minute when it makes so much difference to the look of my case.

I'm not a blind consumer and I resent that label. I made a choice based on my preferences - it's probably a preference that most consumers would make if the units were the same price. For me, that price didn't really matter.
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Interesting. I don't hear the 80mm fan of the Turbo-Cool 860 above the Noiseblocker MH12-P on PWM. However, I would much prefer a 120mm as the PSU does become warm to the touch from time to time. What I like about the cables not being modular is that they tuck away to the side, leaving room along the chassis floor for accessories (e.g. pump).




How does the Seasonic X-850 stack up to the Turbo-Cool 860?

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post #33 of 107
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The Turbocools were great... back in 2005. Now they're just average with a capital A. And definitely not worth the price you'd pay for one now. They aren't bad though.

The X850, as seen in the Corsair AX850, is far superior in most performance aspects, except possibly transient response, due to the half bridge LLC topology used. But voltage regulation, efficiency, and ripple suppression are all far better.
post #34 of 107
Hey, adamlau, so do you want to use a 120mm fan to keep your power supply cooler? It's the 80s that actually cool better by drawing out heat, but a 120+ fan keeps your PSU quieter.
post #35 of 107
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Updated.

Also, reading through this thread again, I TOTALLY called it man.
Just out of curiosity (and maybe something more, see sig), could you comment on the 910w Silencer? I would confess to having been a bit of a PC P+C fanboy at one point - had the 750w Silencer as well (still have it laying around). Initially, I bought the single-rail argument, as well as the modular argument (a few years ago, when mod was relatively new), partly because I tend to follow against-the-herd positions in a knee-jerk fashion. At the same time, they did get pretty good reviews (PC P+C FUD notwithstanding) both from users and serious reviewers. In fact, the 910w got this, from the Wolf:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...tory5&reid=157

Of course, it also got this:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/...0_psu_review/9

I should say that I never really cared about noise, so that wasn't a factor for me. Aside from that, Wolf was pretty enthusiastic. On the other hand, OCP wasn't as pleased - almost like they got a different psu.

It sounds like I won't be getting a PC P+C in the future, barring some sort of comeback. I guess I'm just wondering if I got the last of the good ones or the first of the mediocre ones, or something in between (I know the 910w became very hard to find shortly after release, because of parts/relationship issues with...Seasonic?). I should say that the 910w unit's always treated me quite well, as far as I can tell, and I'd like to transfer it to a next-gen rig with one or two GTX 4XX/5XXs. Is it true that the unit could have been rated 1000w? Thanks for any input.

edit: another great/bad 910w review:

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/p...910w_atx_psu/5

again, almost like they got a different psu than jonnyguru.
Edited by seward - 10/31/10 at 7:16pm
post #36 of 107
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[H] tests transient response time, which JG doesn't. I'm not sure why the 910W does so poorly there, the S/M12D 850W wasn't quite that bad. He's also bashing on the PC P&C FUD; fixed cables, 80mm fan, single rail.


But it's still a SeaSonic S12D.
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But it's still a SeaSonic S12D.
Which is a good thing, I guess, modifications aside. Seems like it should handle an i7/i9 rig with one or two beefy next-gen (nvidia) gfx cards.
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Great info, guys . Need a new PSU for a secondary box...I'll will be tossing my current 860 in there...I suppose I'll wait it out for the new PCP&C modular design before deciding on whether to jump ship to the AX850, or not...
Edited by adamlau - 10/31/10 at 9:51pm
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[H] tests transient response time, which JG doesn't. I'm not sure why the 910W does so poorly there...
It's the stretched platform and most likely from the non matching caps. 400v caps, with one being 390uF and the other 470uF.

If they were both 470uF we most likely would have witnessed better results.
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Bummer to see my "newly" purchased Silencer 750 relegated to mid-range, but for the price, i still can't complain.

I will admit, i was one of those guys who (before OCZ), lusted after the chance to own a legendary PC P&C PSU. Ironically, i got the last good one they will ever make.. heh
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