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It's loud near it's rated/maximum output. Reviews will find/highlight this issue as they do more load testing. In the real world, it's not as big of an issue. Many people, including the three of us, have PCs that don't need as much output as our PSUs can supply, so we never really hear the fans ramp up.
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I think I read in a review somewhere that the fan was PC Power & Cooling's decision/design, not SeaSonic's? That could be wrong though. The original Silencers harken back to SeaSonic's own Super Silencer, which, if I remember right, was a rather silent unit. They were also lower wattage though too, so maybe PC Power & Cooling's units based off of it needed a faster/louder fan for the higher wattage that PC Power & Cooling was getting out of them.
Some of the Silencer's (310, 360, 370, 410, 460, 470, & 500w) were based on designs that natively used 80mm fans. They also had 120mm designs though. Since PC Power & Cooling's design team used to brag about the rear mounted 80mm fans cooling better (noise wasn't an issue way back when) they kept with it and over markted it. Getting them a bad name.

The Silencer 750w was based on a 900w design from Seasonic that used a rear mounted 80mm fan normally called the X900 (or SS-900HP.)
This was standard affair at the time, since it had so much excess heat to cool.
(80% efficiency @ 900w = 225w of excess heat generated.)

The Silencer 760w & Silencer 910w were different stories though. As they were way more efficient (almost 86% at full load) meaning the excess heat generated was far less, so a slow speed 140mm fan would have been great.


Though, in PC Power's defense, they were not nearly as loud as the Turbo Cool units. Which could get up to an ear piercing 80dB(A)

The Silencer's used a standard ADDA fan from Seaonic which topped out at 42dB(A) IIRC. Not nearly as bad; but it was still noticeable if you got a unit proportional to your rig.

In PCP&C's defense, they had one of the best "PSU Calculators" on the market for awhile. You could use their online app, or email them, and they would always tell you the right sized unit to get.

E.G. If you got a Core 2 Duo and a 8800GTS 640MB, they would tell you all you need is a Silencer 470w.
They wouldn't tell you to get the 610w or 750w.

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It's loud near it's rated/maximum output. Reviews will find/highlight this issue as they do more load testing. In the real world, it's not as big of an issue. Many people, including the three of us, have PCs that don't need as much output as our PSUs can supply, so we never really hear the fans ramp up.
I was gonna tell them that.

Very few units are actually "quiet" at full load.

Silverstone, BeQuiet, and Enermax are usually the brands that are.

Enermax & Silverstone use "139mm" (140mm fans actually, but they say 139mm to avoid a patent fee) fans that only spin at 1000 or so RPM to keep their units Quiet.

BeQuiet goes all out with rubber fan mounts, a special grill, and low RPM fans with unique blade designs.
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???

PC Power & Cooling is own by OCZ and i see alot of people like PC p&C so why do people bash the OCZ Fatal1ty brand and stuff saying there crap psu
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???

PC Power & Cooling is own by OCZ and i see alot of people like PC p&C so why do people bash the OCZ Fatal1ty brand and stuff saying there crap psu
The Fatal1ty 550w uses cheap capacitors. Ltec & Teapo in it, as well as having a low 12v rating (~440w on the 12v rail, is low for a 550w unit.) As well as an inflated price.

The Fatal1ty 750w isn't as bad, the performance is kinda meh. 3% voltage regulation isn't bad but it's nothing to write home about. As well, the efficiency just barely scoots by on 80+ Bronze. It's also got a lower than normal 12v raiting at 650w on the 12v rail.

Price isn't bad at $100 considering it has all japanese capacitors, a fairly good fan profile. And decent efficiency.
It's also modular, which is a bonus.
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???

PC Power & Cooling is own by OCZ and i see alot of people like PC p&C so why do people bash the OCZ Fatal1ty brand and stuff saying there crap psu
It's blanket statements and parroting that's caused by stuff like this thread, among others (referring to the PC Power & Cooling "hate"). Granted, I know it's not the intention of this thread to do that, but the recent witch hunting against PC Power & Cooling in retaliation to combating the misconceptions it's marketing caused sort of did the same exact thing just to the opposite end (that is, rather than everything think they're the best, it's seemingly like they think they're nothing now).

I'd kind of like to see thread redone for that reason. The damage from PC Power & Cooling's marketing myths, which they've taken down (and I've fallen to one or two a bit), has mostly been rectified if you ask me. PC Power & Cooling isn't Corsair, or Antec, or whatever, but they have their place (even though the Mk.II unit isn't my favorite). They may be a niche now, but they sort of always were... just with marketing myths at one point.

You put a Corsair (almost any Corsair) and one of the newer Silencer (not Mk.II) units in front of me, and loud fan at load or non-modular be gone, I'm taking the PC Power & Cooling.
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Tator tot thanks just wonder why all the stuff about them. I personally go corsair seasonic since its the best choice but always nice to know there is a cheaper decent brand.

Also with the new AX series it pushes the price down alittle on the HX series
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Well, say the Silencer 610 was actually a 650w.

If you put the Corsair TX650 and the Silencer "650"w against one another, they would both have great customer service and great warranty periods (5 years.) The only difference at that point would be PCP&C allowing you to customize the cable load out as well as giving you the "Power Report" of what they tested that unit at. (Which was/is great IMO.)

PC Power & Cooling needs to "Get with the times" and I hate to say it that way; but if they would offer fully modular 80+ Platinum units under a Silencer Gen3 brand that I could get customized to my needs (as I only need 1 chain of molex connectors, but 9001 sata.) then I would be in heaven.

Though, they're definitely making strides in the right path. We'll just have to wait and see.

Part of the problem was the OCZ acquisition, in which they didn't know what to do with PCP&C and didn't do squatt anyways.

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Tator tot thanks just wonder why all the stuff about them. I personally go corsair seasonic since its the best choice but always nice to know there is a cheaper decent brand.

Also with the new AX series it pushes the price down alittle on the HX series

Corsair & Seasonic are two good choices, but they are not always the best choice.

It always will depend on your budget and your needs.

Believe it or not (But there's reviews to prove me correct,) even companies like Rosewill make good units that are great on a budget.

Right now, some of the best budget units you can get are the Rosewill Green Series.
Usually it's $50 to $65 for Non-Modular, single 12v rail, 80+ Bronze 530w and 630w units.
The 430w unit is 80+ Standard, but only missed bronze by 0.3%; and it goes for about $45.

They also have the new HIVE series which has some of the cheapest 550w-750w modular units on the market. With surprisingly good build quality and excellent performance.
Edited by Tator Tot - 9/4/11 at 5:41am
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Thats True but when your with corsair and have had minimal problems i wouldnt want to change unless i have alot of problems. Stick to whats been working

Like personallty i would love to get z68 fatality board and the ocz fatal1ty psu but im afraid they both suck and i will end up with nonstop problems
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PC Power & Cooling needs to "Get with the times" and I hate to say it that way; but if they would offer fully modular 80+ Platinum units under a Silencer Gen3 brand that I could get customized to my needs (as I only need 1 chain of molex connectors, but 9001 sata.) then I would be in heaven.

Though, they're definitely making strides in the right path. We'll just have to wait and see.

Part of the problem was the OCZ acquisition, in which they didn't know what to do with PCP&C and didn't do squatt anyways.
Oh, I entirely agree with that (and now that you mention that, I think I'll be disappointed slightly with anything PC Power & Cooling does short of that, but unfortunately, the way the Mk.II went, who knows...). PC Power & Cooling isn't for everyone, and they are in very rough waters, but there's people out there who go "PC Power is garbage due to OCZ who is also garbage buying them out", etc., when as I said, it's a blanket statement and I'd take one of the "newer" original Silencers over pretty much anything Corsair, for example.

I think what this thread (the OP) is stating is fine, but including it as it's own portion would be nice. I guess I'm saying the same thing here I did in the Antec thread. I'd like to see more organized and specific listings of their units rather than a lengthy write-up of why they've gone downhill and to avoid them. Most people aren't going to start recommending them as value units like they do with Antec or Corsair anyway.
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Well, say the Silencer 610 was actually a 650w.
Really? A ~680W peak unit is "really" a 650W unit? Shouldn't it peak higher if that's the case? I always wondered why they went with 610W. It seemed such an odd number. Why not 600W and enjoy slightly better performance/efficiency/whatever (even if minute)?
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Thats True but when your with corsair and have had minimal problems i wouldnt want to change unless i have alot of problems. Stick to whats been working

Like personallty i would love to get z68 fatality board and the ocz fatal1ty psu but im afraid they both suck and i will end up with nonstop problems
The Z68 Fatal1ty board is a good board; but I always suggest for finding what suits your needs more so than a name/brand of something.

Though, if you want a 750w modular PSU on a budget; the Rosewill HIVE 750w would be the best choice for you. A few bones cheaper than the OCZ unit, good warranty, and no worries about the brand (since Rosewill is owned by Newegg.)

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Oh, I entirely agree with that (and now that you mention that, I think I'll be disappointed slightly with anything PC Power & Cooling does short of that, but unfortunately, the way the Mk.II went, who knows...). PC Power & Cooling isn't for everyone, and they are in very rough waters, but there's people out there who go "PC Power is garbage due to OCZ who is also garbage buying them out", etc., when as I said, it's a blanket statement and I'd take one of the "newer" original Silencers over pretty much anything Corsair, for example.
Those are the blanket statements that I crush with facts, reviews, and more information than they can wrap their head around.

PC Power & Cooling's Silencer MKII line did 1 important thing, it revived the brand, generated revenue, and brought them back to the market after a year of being dead almost.

The other nice thing about the Silencer MKII's is that it let us know that Sirfa could actually have some really good build quality if someone told them to make nice things.

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I think what this thread (the OP) is stating is fine, but including it as it's own portion would be nice. I guess I'm saying the same thing here I did in the Antec thread. I'd like to see more organized and specific listings of their units rather than a lengthy write-up of why they've gone downhill and to avoid them. Most people aren't going to start recommending them as value units like they do with Antec or Corsair anyway.Really? A ~680W peak unit is "really" a 650W unit? Shouldn't it peak higher if that's the case? I always wondered why they went with 610W. It seemed such an odd number. Why not 600W and enjoy slightly better performance/efficiency/whatever (even if minute)?
Well, being an Editor for the site is an unpaid job. (Yes, it really is a job) so it does take time to get things like this updated.

Also, peak numbers mean nothing. There are excellent 1000w units that only peak at 1100w because of VERY tight Over Power Protection (which is a good thing. )
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