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post #361 of 371
Hey Guys, nice to be here in =The Official ASUS P6T Series Motherboard Owners Club= thumb.gif

I bought a Asus P6T Deluxe today, now my Question is (just to get 100% sure), will the Xeon X5670 run with this Board?
post #362 of 371
@N1CK69 yes it will. Just make sure the latest bios is installed
post #363 of 371
Hey guys! This is a short introduction to my mod for my Asus P6T Deluxe V2 which I have crossflashed with a modded P6X58D-E BIOS. This allows me to use a much newer Intel Option Rom (OROM) for my 2 x 2TB SSHDs in RAID-0 and contains the option to use a voltage offset (which the original BIOS did not have). Thus I am now able to use my Xeon E5645 @ 2.4 Ghz @ 1.03 V at idle (runs @ 3.8 Ghz @ 1.18 V under load). Also thanks to the new OROM I get better results for my SSHDs. Use it at your own risk, you'll find the necessary tools here : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx1_m8WSFFfeamt1b201Q1RQS00

(Update:) As I have upgraded my CPU to a X5650, I have also uploaded a modified P6TWS Pro BIOS with the newest Microcode, but with an older 10.x Intel Option ROM with TRIM support though.

Advantages: 1) High TDP lets you overclock beyond the TDP limit of your CPU, 2) Turbo mode can be disabled, 3) unbuffered ECC-RAM support (works with the other BIOS in non-ECC mode as well)

Disadvantages: 1) No dynamic voltage regulation, 2) no newer Intel Option Roms beyond 10.x, 3) Firewire does not work

What's new?

mod153mc2.rom

- much newer Microcode (from June/August 2015) for Nehalem and Westmere CPUs (CPUID: 06A4, 06A5 and 06C2), deleted support for engineering samples (CPUID: 06A0 and 06C0)
- Intel Option ROM: 8086-2822_v15032675.bin (tested and works with my 2x 2 TB SSHD RAID-0, also got it to work with the newer 8086-2822_v15102545.bin and versions below, all OROMs newer than that fail to load the RAID array due to size)
- deleted the ASUS splash screen

The mod153mc3 version contains all of the above and additionally uses a modified Marvell LAN Option ROM (same version 11ab-4380_v66813.bin) which is untested and might not work due to size.

What is known not to work?

- the top PCIe x4 slot doesn't work anymore
- ASUS Express Gate is recognized as a *HiSpeed* USB Mass Storage Device, which can be disabled in Windows
- the CPU TURBO cannot be disabled

Flashing process:

Assuming you are currently on the stock BIOS of your P6T Deluxe V2, you'll need to flash the new P6X58D-E BIOS with an engineering version of AFUDOS. EZFlash won't accept it! The file provided here is AFU236U.exe and will do the job.

1.) You'll need a bootable USB stick with the aforementioned AFUDOS version and the BIOS file. Make sure that it runs in HIGHMEM mode or you'll get an error while trying to flash the BIOS. Some USB-Boot-Tools fail to do so.

2.) Assuming you are in the right directory where the files are located type the following into the command prompt (*it promptly will start the flashing process without further warning*)

afu236u /iBIOSFILE /pbnc /n

Notice that there is no space between the /i and the name of the BIOS file.

3.) After restart, you should be greeted with the new BIOS.

*updated the NON-working part*

Edited by ms178 - 10/26/17 at 1:06am
post #364 of 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by ms178 View Post

Hey guys! This is a short introduction to my mod for my Asus P6T Deluxe V2 which I have crossflashed with a modded P6X58D-E BIOS. This allows me to use a much newer Intel Option Rom (OROM) for my 2 x 2TB SSHDs in RAID-0 and contains the option to use a voltage offset (which the original BIOS did not have). Thus I am now able to use my Xeon E5645 @ 2.4 Ghz @ 1.03 V at idle (runs @ 3.8 Ghz @ 1.18 V under load). Also thanks to the new OROM I get better results for my SSHDs. Use it at your own risk, you'll find the necessary tools here : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx1_m8WSFFfeamt1b201Q1RQS00

What's new?

Recommended file: mod153mc2.rom

- much newer Microcode (from June/August 2015) for Nehalem and Westmere CPUs (CPUID: 06A4, 06A5 and 06C2), deleted support for engineering samples (CPUID: 06A0 and 06C0)
- Intel Option ROM: 8086-2822_v15032675.bin (tested and works with my 2x 2 TB SSHD RAID-0, also got it to work with the newer 8086-2822_v15102545.bin and versions below, all OROMs newer than that fail to load the RAID array due to size)
- deleted the ASUS splash screen

The mod153mc3 version contains all of the above and additionally uses a modified Marvell LAN Option ROM (same version 11ab-4380_v66813.bin) which is untested and might not work due to size.

What is known not to work?

- the top PCIe x4 slot doesn't work anymore
- ASUS Express Gate is recognized as a *HiSpeed* USB Mass Storage Device, which can be disabled in Windows

Flashing process:

Assuming you are currently on the stock BIOS of your P6T Deluxe V2, you'll need to flash the new P6X58D-E BIOS with an engineering version of AFUDOS. EZFlash won't accept it! The file provided here is AFU236U.exe and will do the job.

1.) You'll need a bootable USB stick with the aforementioned AFUDOS version and the BIOS file. Make sure that it runs in HIGHMEM mode or you'll get an error while trying to flash the BIOS. Some USB-Boot-Tools fail to do so.

2.) Assuming you are in the right directory where the files are located type the following into the command prompt (*it promptly will start the flashing process without further warning*)

afu236u /iBIOSFILE /pbnc /n

Notice that there is no space between the /i and the name of the BIOS file.

3.) After restart, you should be greeted with the new BIOS.


Hey there!

Just tried your bios and registered here to say that I was unable to flash the bios file.

Using rufus with freedos fat32 and loading the using "loadhigh" for the afudos flash command says it's still low on memory.
Can't find any mentioning of default highmem option for the different usb-boot tools around. Do you have any suggestions?
I was going down the route and learning the highmem option on old DOS boot files with HP boot usb tool but it was a pain in the ass to figure out.
Googling for 2 hours gave me nothing with highmem usb boot tools so maybe I suck at googling smile.gif. Appreciate the biosfile and your work btw!

I gave the last bios mod mentioned one page back but I have the same error as one user described that as (X5675) soon as I change ANY settings in bios the motherboard refuses to boot at all. I think the microcode is borked from that release for the x56xx cpu:s so don't bother flashing it if you have this CPU. (Me experience, yours may differ).
post #365 of 371
Hey Swockan! Thanks a lot for your feedback and trying out my mod!

Indeed it was a pain to get a working bootable USB stick with HIGHMEM support. I ended up with a bootable Frankenstein version ( = a combination of two seperate usb boot tools which somehow worked in the end) which I don't remember exactly anymore how to create. I am afraid I should have written it down at that time but forgot it. I think it was a combination of Rufus and an older Freedos 1.0 version [EDIT: It could have been the Freedos version which UNetbootin offers - see http://unetbootin.github.io/). Rufus alone was definelty not enough (but unfortunately I cannot remember where I got it so you still need to do some experiments yourself to get it working). It'll show you a list where you can chose to boot with HIGHMEM support in the end if successful.

The Intel errata for Westmere indeed named a problem with the X5675 on older microcode (BD 131 - Sensitivity in Execution Unit Clock Circuitry on a small subset of Intel® Xeon® processor X5675, X5690 and X5687 May Result in Unpredictable System Behavior) which was fixed in the 1A microcode update in 2013. Most BIOS mods out there use this older microcode (13 or 14) which is still affected by that bug. I provided the 1D version within my modded BIOS and seperatly in my Google Drive folder which is from 2015. So you could mod the BIOS of your board with MMTool and the newest microcode quite easily yourself (either by extracting the microcode from my modded BIOS with the tool MCExtractor or taking the already extracted version in my folder). But that is of course not a guarantee that it was this exact issue you were facing though.

By the way, I've since swapped my CPUs from a E5645 to a X5650. Both show totally different characteristics with the modded P6X58D-E BIOS. Whereas the E5645 had no problems in accepting a BCLK of 200, I've noticed that disabling the CPU turbo mode within the BIOS did not have the desired effect and is practically useless. This was not a problem with the former CPU because of the 19 x multiplier but my X5650 couldn't handle it and trying out other settings was a huge pain. For the latter I would therefore recommend the (modded) P6T WS PRO BIOS. I could get the X5650 stable there at 4.2 Ghz without pushing it further. I've also noticed that both BIOSes set different QPI/DRAM values by default (according to HWMonitor). The P6X58D-E sets pretty low values with its AUTO setting which could cause instability whereas the AUTO setting of the P6T WS PRO was quite high. Adjusting it manually helped in both cases to find the right balance for my chip.
Edited by ms178 - 10/5/17 at 2:02pm
post #366 of 371
Didn't think there was much activity on these x58 boards but I was wrong! smile.gif

Never had 1366 before so this is a new world for me.

Appreciate the info about going with the ws pro crossflash instead of this. Do you "kill" the first pci-e slot with the crossflash like some other do?

It's easy to get the x5675 booting on all auto of course but since I don't want to kill it and run it for a long time the manual OC takes some time!

using multiplier 22-23 seems most stable, higher and it freakes out more easily.
The QPI with higher mem frequencies is not worth the trouble so aiming for around 1600-1700 seems more stable than 1800+ mhz.

Coming from P55-motherboards and xeons x3440 i (think) this is harder!

If anyone has a full set of manual bios settings for the x5650-x5680 variants on p6t v2 deluxe it would be a nice change to all the auto-overclocking settings I have found around the web.

Going for a stable hackintosh for FCPX so around 4 ghz might be ok for long runs, not burn down the house? smile.gif

EDIT: So without going the crossflash route to ws pro (for ECC unbuffered functionality) I landed on 4.025 @ 1.27v (load calibration up to 1.29) under full load. 23x multi x 175 and ram@1750. stock voltages manually on all other settings.
Speedstep but without turbo. Never gets above 67 degres celsius after burntests for 10 hours.

The only thing giving me a headache is the QPI link speed which is set to about 3400 but cpuid never goes above 3200.
This is stable enough that I will go on about installing OSx and trying to see what FCPx rendertimes I get.

Thanks to everybody in this thread that gave their info. If you have any pointers to the QPI link-speed I will happily accept them! smile.gif /The n00b
Edited by swockan - 10/6/17 at 4:30am
post #367 of 371
Quote:
Originally Posted by ms178 View Post

Hey guys! This is a short introduction to my mod for my Asus P6T Deluxe V2 which I have crossflashed with a modded P6X58D-E BIOS. This allows me to use a much newer Intel Option Rom (OROM) for my 2 x 2TB SSHDs in RAID-0 and contains the option to use a voltage offset (which the original BIOS did not have). Thus I am now able to use my Xeon E5645 @ 2.4 Ghz @ 1.03 V at idle (runs @ 3.8 Ghz @ 1.18 V under load). Also thanks to the new OROM I get better results for my SSHDs. Use it at your own risk, you'll find the necessary tools here : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx1_m8WSFFfeamt1b201Q1RQS00

What's new?

Recommended file: mod153mc2.rom

- much newer Microcode (from June/August 2015) for Nehalem and Westmere CPUs (CPUID: 06A4, 06A5 and 06C2), deleted support for engineering samples (CPUID: 06A0 and 06C0)
- Intel Option ROM: 8086-2822_v15032675.bin (tested and works with my 2x 2 TB SSHD RAID-0, also got it to work with the newer 8086-2822_v15102545.bin and versions below, all OROMs newer than that fail to load the RAID array due to size)
- deleted the ASUS splash screen

The mod153mc3 version contains all of the above and additionally uses a modified Marvell LAN Option ROM (same version 11ab-4380_v66813.bin) which is untested and might not work due to size.

What is known not to work?

- the top PCIe x4 slot doesn't work anymore
- ASUS Express Gate is recognized as a *HiSpeed* USB Mass Storage Device, which can be disabled in Windows
- the CPU TURBO cannot be disabled

Flashing process:

Assuming you are currently on the stock BIOS of your P6T Deluxe V2, you'll need to flash the new P6X58D-E BIOS with an engineering version of AFUDOS. EZFlash won't accept it! The file provided here is AFU236U.exe and will do the job.

1.) You'll need a bootable USB stick with the aforementioned AFUDOS version and the BIOS file. Make sure that it runs in HIGHMEM mode or you'll get an error while trying to flash the BIOS. Some USB-Boot-Tools fail to do so.

2.) Assuming you are in the right directory where the files are located type the following into the command prompt (*it promptly will start the flashing process without further warning*)

afu236u /iBIOSFILE /pbnc /n

Notice that there is no space between the /i and the name of the BIOS file.

3.) After restart, you should be greeted with the new BIOS.

*updated the NON-working part*

Hi ms178,

I have a P6T Deluxe V2 with Bios V1202, please see image attached below:



Does this creation of your may work with MB and CPU?

Your help will be much appreciated because somehow I can't update my Windows 10 Pro build 16299.19 to build 17025 or even 17017.
To test I have disconnected/disabled everything I could and still no go so, I am thinking that maybe the problem is with BIOS and maybe your mod will help.

Thanks,
JGToy

P.S. I do not know about bios mod but I am trying to fish.
post #368 of 371
Hey JGToy,

I've had much trouble testing build 17017 myself. I guess that is on Microsoft though as 16299 works pretty decent on my rig. Hence I don't think that my BIOS mod will magically solve this issue for you. If that would be your only reason, I'd not try out my mod.

It is only worth it if you want to enjoy the benefits of dynamic voltage regulation ( = lower idle power usage), the new Microcode or the new Intel RAID ROM. But please also consider the downsides. Your i7-960 has a pretty high multiplier hence overclocking could be limited because you cannot disable the turbo mode.

I will update my original post because I also modded the P6TWS Pro BIOS which can also be used on an P6 T Deluxe V2 but has other up and downsides. You must decide yourself which better suits your needs. By the way, both modded BIOS versions also include updated Microcodes for your Bloomfield CPU.

And remember that you need a bootable USB stick with HIGHMEM support (see the posts from above).
Edited by ms178 - 10/26/17 at 9:41am
post #369 of 371
@ms178

Hi there,

I was hoping that it would but I understand your point.specool.gif

Besides of what you just said does this mod bring more benefits like (ex. ssd use, etc...)?

As I said before I do not have acknowledgement about mod, but I will be looking into it and I'll download your mods to test.

Thanks, I really appreciated.

J.G.
Edited by JGToy - 10/27/17 at 12:10am
post #370 of 371
false
Quote:
Originally Posted by JGToy View Post

@ms178

Hi there,

I was hopping that it would but I understand your point.specool.gif

Besides of what you just said does this mod bring more benefits like (ex. ssd use, etc...)?

As I said before I do not have acknowledgement about mod, but I will be looking into it and I'll download your mods to test.

Thanks, I really appreciated.

J.G.

For SSDs the TRIM modification could be useful in the P6TWS BIOS on that older 10.x Intel OROM, the newer 13.x Intel OROMs in the P6X58D-E BIOS should be TRIM-capable as is. I got these (pre-modified) OROM files from win-raid.com and integrated them with MMTool.

As I don't know the rest of your hardware and your use cases, I cannot comment on further advantages or disadvantages beyond the ones already mentioned in my original post. But I have used both modified BIOS files extensively myself. With the P6TWS Bios there is one IRQ routing error reported during POST, but I haven't noticed any problems beyond the unusable Firewire port. So if you depend on more obscure features of the board like eSATA or if you need all PCIe slots etc. I cannot give you any guarantees that it will work because I do not use or test these.
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