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TX-3 is a top tier TIM. It's doubtful you'll noticeably improve performance by switching, unless you're current application is poor.
Exactly this, not many use it, but it's high quality stuff.
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post #12 of 19
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80 Way Tim Jun 14, 2009 I am guessing the above is no biased, BTW any know of a newer unbiased TIM testing that review a high quantity of products this year at all?

Shin-Etsu G-751 Thermal Compound 1.0 gram arrived usps w/i 4 days from ca to wi

I personally purchased 10 tubes g-751 its think really need to heat it up a lot before applying a pea sized amount for it to spread properly, I use boiling water for a few min personally

Dropped quite a few degrees vs TR the chill factor that i got w/ my TRUE w/ free 1366 mounting from svc , and cheapo Best buy dyntec silver (cheapo in quality not price )
Agreed with the Shin-Etsu! Once I finally got a technique on how to apply it I never looked at any other TIM. I never tried the boiling water yet, I only used a hair dryer and it works for me.
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IC diamond and Shin Etsu X23 is supposedly a few degrees better,and then there is the Indigo Extreme.
http://indigo-xtreme.com/index.html
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post #14 of 19
You Could Always do some Benching your self and then Post results for your OWN bench,
That way you get the Knowledge First Hand and you can Pass it on,

At the Moment i am Running my Cpu at stock without TIM as i see it as just another layer to heat up and retain heat,

They say that heat rises but it cant if its jammed in PASTE.

Im in need of some better fans ( Slow air flow ) so until then im not going to run Heat Benches,
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80 Way Tim Jun 14, 2009 I am guessing the above is no biased, BTW any know of a newer unbiased TIM testing that review a high quantity of products this year at all?
Here's a FIX for the link you gave.

I honestly can't tell if you are being sarcastic here. I don't think you are but reading is not the same and hearing you say it with a facial expression.

I was using the Zalman ZM-STG2 Super Thermal Grease when it first came out before trying the T-C 0098 stuff when I read about it from the original 33 TIM review. Back then though when I emailed Dave at TIM Consultants (I think his name was Dave) I got the jar of 0098 for about $5.xx shipped. The price has gone up since then.

To be honest I didn't notice much of a difference in temps but it had next to no burn-in time. It's a little thick and not nearly as easy to work with as the Zalman stuff but at half the cost and still has great performance, even after all this time, it was worth the buy.
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You Could Always do some Benching your self and then Post results for your OWN bench,
That way you get the Knowledge First Hand and you can Pass it on,

At the Moment i am Running my Cpu at stock without TIM as i see it as just another layer to heat up and retain heat,

They say that heat rises but it cant if its jammed in PASTE.

Im in need of some better fans ( Slow air flow ) so until then im not going to run Heat Benches,
You do realize if you apply TIM properly, the TIM should be squeezed to micro spaces of air between your CPU and Heatsink. As you might have noticed, TIM contains silver or copper,etc - AKA metal. By the way, your heatsink is metal too, how is the heat suppose to rise off your CPU with that metal in the way? Just run heatsink-less too.
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You do realize if you apply TIM properly, the TIM should be squeezed to micro spaces of air between your CPU and Heatsink. As you might have noticed, TIM contains silver or copper,etc - AKA metal. By the way, your heatsink is metal too, how is the heat suppose to rise off your CPU with that metal in the way? Just run heatsink-less too.
Have you ever thought of testing Different Methods by the Calculation of Gaining more Knowledge in the Areas that you Attain your life to,
( further more your Money ).

I will test the Methods that suit me ( To some My methods may seem like madness ) to gain a fuller understanding of the conductance materials that in some cases i may find i can do without,

Saving me Money and the worry of ( Did it seat Properly and do i have Air Pockets ),
I have Direct Contact Between two surfaces TIM is a Third Part that i may find im better Off without.
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It all really depends on your application methods.

But what others have suggested is fine

I personally use OCZ Freeze.
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Originally Posted by macca_dj View Post
Have you ever thought of testing Different Methods by the Calculation of Gaining more Knowledge in the Areas that you Attain your life to,
( further more your Money ).

I will test the Methods that suit me ( To some My methods may seem like madness ) to gain a fuller understanding of the conductance materials that in some cases i may find i can do without,

Saving me Money and the worry of ( Did it seat Properly and do i have Air Pockets ),
I have Direct Contact Between two surfaces TIM is a Third Part that i may find im better Off without.
Nobody is saying it wont work if you dont use a TIM. (or shouldn't)
A TIM is a thermal interface material. Your choice of TIM is dependant on what thermal interface you want... some fillers are literally that (have a low conductivity.) and transfer very little heat then at the other end of the spectrum there are the TIMs with much higher thermal conductivity and are applied strictly to speed heat from one surface to another.
There is no need to "trap heat" in a TIM unless you intend to by using a low conductivity material.
Most TIMs intending for PC use will in the main work better than no TIM, assuming correct aplication.
Why ? because no metal surface is truly flat you can machine a surface to very high standard and as flat as it feels to you I guarantee it wont be truly flat and lapping wont get it truly flat either it is due the physical make up of the metal. There will be hills and valleys on the CPU surface and hills and valleys on the Heatsink and where all the hils meet you will have trapped air in the valleys ( and incidently where the hills touch you will get good conductivity.) - period and you can't change that fact.
The purpose of high conductivity TIMs is to fill in the valleys with something that transfers heat faster than air...not necessarily a metal based paste.
Edited by zipdogso - 4/18/10 at 5:10pm
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