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According to what i've read at forums.mushkin.com...it absolutely does matter. AMD procs (newer Phenom II's for instance) prefer lower timings over higher mem clocks. For example, you'll get better performance at 1333 clocks w/ 6,7,6,18 timings than at 1600 clocks w/ 8,9,8,24 timings. Sean...can you settle this for us?
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According to what i've read at forums.mushkin.com...it absolutely does matter. AMD procs (newer Phenom II's for instance) prefer lower timings over higher mem clocks. For example, you'll get better performance at 1333 clocks w/ 6,7,6,18 timings than at 1600 clocks w/ 8,9,8,24 timings. Sean...can you settle this for us?
You realize your debating a couple Mb's here and there. If you can notice the difference god bless you.
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i've no interest in debating anything...just trying to be helpful.
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post #204 of 486
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Originally Posted by pash1k View Post
Sean,

I wanted to get the 996679 kit, but newegg ran out minutes before I placed my order -_- (and amazon ran out while I had it in my shopping cart, but on the phone) so I ended up getting the 996744 kit. Really excited to try out Mushkin, making this purchase because of Mushkin's PR (aka this topic). I am not too familiar with RAM timings, but I've heard that AMD CPUs can't go below 8-8-7 at 1600MHz. Is that true? Can you show me a good place to learn about RAM timings and speed? What's more important, low timings or high frequency? Thanks.
Well that's not entirely correct that AM3 can't go below CL8 at 1600, let me explain.

6-8 months ago most AMD boards were tuned for high voltage DDR3, a lot of the boards would not POST with 1.65V type ram if you set CL6 or CL7 on the 1600(1:4) memory multi, only CL8 would work. You could however set CL6 and CL7 if you used the 1333(1:3.33) memory multi.
With the increased interest in AMD, since AMD released the X6 CPUs, most of the BIOS issues with 1.65V type memory have been work out now on the higher end and newer boards.
I have a 790 mobo that 6 months ago I could not use the 1:4 memory multi at anything less than CL8 with 1.65V memory, now with the latest BIOS revs I can set CL6 without issue.
There are still some older/low end boards that have issues with the 1:4 memory multi.

Redhat_ownage is correct, the lowest timings at the highest frequencies possible is best.
Now if I had a choice between 6-6-6-18 @ DDR3-1333 and 7-7-7-21 @ DDR3-1600 I would go with the CL6 @ 1333, simply because they are basically the same performance, but 1333 is easier on the system.
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Hey, Sean; what Bios revision was your 790 using? Assuming it was an ASUS board, the latest BIOS to deal with RAM compatibility was back in November. I've tried CL7 on my RAM (not Mushkin yet, I'm sorry to say) and I couldn't even get into Windows.

Just curious, thanks.
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post #207 of 486
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Hey, Sean; what Bios revision was your 790 using? Assuming it was an ASUS board, the latest BIOS to deal with RAM compatibility was back in November. I've tried CL7 on my RAM (not Mushkin yet, I'm sorry to say) and I couldn't even get into Windows.

Just curious, thanks.
Actually my 790 is a Gigabyte mobo.
I would still try the latest BIOS for your mobo, they don't always list all the "fixes" that they do with each BIOS.

If the board is POSTing you may just need an increase in CPU-NB voltage for stability.
You can also try the other set of memory slots.
Worse comes to worst and you can't get stable using the 1600 memory multi, try with the 1333 multi.
post #208 of 486
Since everyone is talking about timings now, I figured this would be a good time to ask my question.

Recently, I picked up some Mushkin Enhanced Blackline DDR2 1066 on these forums. With a light overclock on the FSB from 200-222, the RAM now runs at 888mhz. My question is that I can get it running fine and stable at 5-4-4-12 at 1.91 volts, but if I try to lower the CL to 4, Prime95 or any other program will crap out after a few seconds, and I'll get a blue screen. I've tried going up to 1.975 volts and it'll still blue screen. Should I just try to up RAM voltage more? The stuff is rated for 2.0-2.2 volts, so I should be ok, right?

All other settings, VCore, CPU/NB, etc are on Auto.
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post #209 of 486
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Originally Posted by MushkinSean View Post
Hi all,

Just wanted to let you all know that I will be on the forum on a permanent basis. If you have any questions or concerns about your Mushkin Enhanced product do not hesitate to ask.

Sean
i was about to buy mushkin ram for the sig rig but the store didn't have any.

welcome to the site tho! glad to see a muskin rep on here

edit: BHAHAHAHA AM I EVER LAATE.

woops.
Edited by Domino - 9/10/10 at 10:56am
post #210 of 486
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Originally Posted by hyujmn View Post
Since everyone is talking about timings now, I figured this would be a good time to ask my question.

Recently, I picked up some Mushkin Enhanced Blackline DDR2 1066 on these forums. With a light overclock on the FSB from 200-222, the RAM now runs at 888mhz. My question is that I can get it running fine and stable at 5-4-4-12 at 1.91 volts, but if I try to lower the CL to 4, Prime95 or any other program will crap out after a few seconds, and I'll get a blue screen. I've tried going up to 1.975 volts and it'll still blue screen. Should I just try to up RAM voltage more? The stuff is rated for 2.0-2.2 volts, so I should be ok, right?

All other settings, VCore, CPU/NB, etc are on Auto.
That's the 996562 kit?
If it is, that kit is fine up to 2.3V

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Originally Posted by Domino View Post
i was about to buy mushkin ram for the sig rig but the store didn't have any.

welcome to the site tho! glad to see a muskin rep on here

edit: BHAHAHAHA AM I EVER LAATE.

woops.
Thanks for the welcome

You have lots of choices of places to purchase Mushkin in the great white north now, NCIX, Canada Computers, Newegg.ca, Memory Express...
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