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post #1 of 30
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New build specs:

Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed - XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 - 4GB (2 x 2GB)
XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB
CORSAIR CMPSU-650HX 650W
WD Caviar 7200 SATA 500 GB HD
Optical Drive
Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX

My only quandary here is the choice of gpu. Either find a 4890, crossfire a pair of 4850s, or single 5770 adding a 5xxx to crossfire when the higher end of the family reaches a semblance of price parity.

I'm hoping to unlock the 555 to a quad. From my reading, it appears the chip ordered from newegg has a 50/50 probability of success, while the ones from Microcenter appear much higher. Is there a particular Microcenter where the high probability chips are emanating from? I'm planning to pick up the chip at the Microcenter in Santa Clara.

By the way, anyone with insights on the successful unlocking probability of the 555s sold at Frys in CA?

Any insights and/or suggestions on how to improve the build along with observations on the compatibility of my parts would be welcomed and greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Edited by Prise - 3/23/10 at 9:28am
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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post #2 of 30
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Originally Posted by Prise View Post
New build specs:

Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed - XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V
G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600 - 4GB (2 x 2GB)
XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB
CORSAIR CMPSU-650HX 650W
WD Caviar 7200 SATA 500 GB HD
Optical Drive Antec
Three Hundred Mid Tower ATX

My only quandary here is the choice of gpu. Either find a 4890, crossfire a pair of 4850s, or single 5770 adding a 5xxx to crossfire when the higher end of the family reaches a semblance of price parity.

I'm hoping to unlock the 555 to a quad. From my reading, it appears the chip ordered from newegg has a 50/50 probability of success, while the ones from Microcenter appear much higher. Is there a particular Microcenter where the high probability chips are emanating from? I'm planning to pick up the chip at the Microcenter in Santa Clara.

By the way, anyone with insights on the successful unlocking probability of the 555s sold at Frys in CA?

Any insights and/or suggestions on how to improve the build along with observations on the compatibility of my parts would be welcomed and greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Hey there.

Your build looks nice. I wouldn't get the 555 if you needed a quad hoping to unlock. If you need or really want a quad, just get one. Other than that, I might recommend getting 2 hard drives. They are dirt cheap per GB and you won't have to worry about losing all your data down the road (unless you already have a backup solution).

Personally, I'm giong to wait until I find a 4890 for a good price. Or when the 5XXX series cards come down in price. Fermi is just a couple days away, right? I'm going to see what happens there, but unless the 5830 gets real cheap, or the 5770's get DIRT cheap, I'm probably still going with a 4890.

The 4890 is still going to kick serious butt and buy you time before the 5xxx comes down in price. And you can still resell the 4890 later for a good price.
Edited by _02 - 3/23/10 at 7:54am
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.5 (1.39v) Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P ASUS 5850 @ 880/1180 (1.118v) 4gb 1333mhz G.Skill DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64gb Crucial M4 SSD 3x 250gb WD2500JD - RAID0 1tb WD1001FALS 1tb WD10EARS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer DLDVD/CDRW Arctic Freezer Pro 64 Win 7 64bit Ultimate E2305 LG 23" LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch II Ninja Tenkeyless Fortron BlueStorm II 500w CM 690II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64gb Crucial M4 SSD 3x 250gb WD2500JD - RAID0 1tb WD1001FALS 1tb WD10EARS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer DLDVD/CDRW Arctic Freezer Pro 64 Win 7 64bit Ultimate E2305 LG 23" LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch II Ninja Tenkeyless Fortron BlueStorm II 500w CM 690II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 
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post #3 of 30
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback.

I like your suggestion of two hard drives, especially given how reasonably price they are per GB these days. Run them in raid?

On the 4890, I agree the price can come down a little bit. However, for this build, I'm left without integrated graphics, and need a graphics card to bridge the gap to the changes surely to ensue after Fermi is introduced.

I've thought about going for a 4850 to run the machine now, and add a more reasonably priced 4890 for a crossfire configuration later.

I don't really need a quad core, but would be nice to have. A part of me likes the randomness and anticipation of buying and hoping a 555 can unlock successfully.
Edited by Prise - 3/23/10 at 9:44am
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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post #4 of 30
Thread Starter 
Will receive psu this afternoon, which is the first part I ordered.

Chose the Corsair 650 mainly because it was a modular power supply. I'm horribly inefficient when it comes to cable management.

The potential con of a modular power supply is the uneven voltage, unlike the even distribution of a hard wired psu. This is the first time I've ever used a modular, and am curious to see how fluid and consistent it performs.

Will take it and test out the psu fully to ensure it is not defective, and operating within published specs.

After psu proves satisfactory, will order the rest of the parts. The gpu is the only part I'm still unsure of which to choose.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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post #5 of 30
I would not run RAID for backup. RAID 1 will populate both drives in the event of corruption, accidental deletion, etc.

Just have two drives and copy or image the drives manually.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.5 (1.39v) Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P ASUS 5850 @ 880/1180 (1.118v) 4gb 1333mhz G.Skill DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64gb Crucial M4 SSD 3x 250gb WD2500JD - RAID0 1tb WD1001FALS 1tb WD10EARS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer DLDVD/CDRW Arctic Freezer Pro 64 Win 7 64bit Ultimate E2305 LG 23" LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch II Ninja Tenkeyless Fortron BlueStorm II 500w CM 690II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
generic Echo Miamidi PCI M-Audio BX5a Studio Monitors 
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Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.5 (1.39v) Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P ASUS 5850 @ 880/1180 (1.118v) 4gb 1333mhz G.Skill DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64gb Crucial M4 SSD 3x 250gb WD2500JD - RAID0 1tb WD1001FALS 1tb WD10EARS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer DLDVD/CDRW Arctic Freezer Pro 64 Win 7 64bit Ultimate E2305 LG 23" LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch II Ninja Tenkeyless Fortron BlueStorm II 500w CM 690II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
generic Echo Miamidi PCI M-Audio BX5a Studio Monitors 
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post #6 of 30
Thread Starter 
Picked up a few more parts today.

Fortunately, I was able to find an XFX Radeon 4890 card on clearance at Best Buy for 146.99.

Based on what I've read, it appears that Microcenter Phenom 555 chips have a higher success rate when unlocking all 4 cores successfully. I picked up the cpu for 99.
My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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post #7 of 30
Thread Starter 
Also, picked up my cpu from Microcenter for $99.99. It seems that the Phenom 555 from the Microcenter have a higher probability of successfully unlocking all 4 cores.

According to the manager, this is because it is Microcenter's practice to order in extreme bulk (to better manage supply uncertainty) storing them in their D.C. facility to be used to restock their stores nationally, while other retailers such as Frys, Best Buy, and New Egg etc...order their new stock directly from AMD.

Checked on the Cases forum to ascertain if the Dark Night will fit in the Antec 300 case.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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post #8 of 30
Thread Starter 
Received hard drive today.

The only parts I'm waiting for now are the RAM, optical drive, and cpu fans + xigmatek heat sink. They're all scheduled to arrive on Monday.

I'll start putting it together Monday afternoon after work. I'll also round up some wire cables and electric tape for more efficient wire management.

Keeping my fingers crossed and hoping this will work!
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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My System
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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post #9 of 30
I love putting a new computer together =)
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.5 (1.39v) Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P ASUS 5850 @ 880/1180 (1.118v) 4gb 1333mhz G.Skill DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64gb Crucial M4 SSD 3x 250gb WD2500JD - RAID0 1tb WD1001FALS 1tb WD10EARS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer DLDVD/CDRW Arctic Freezer Pro 64 Win 7 64bit Ultimate E2305 LG 23" LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch II Ninja Tenkeyless Fortron BlueStorm II 500w CM 690II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
generic Echo Miamidi PCI M-Audio BX5a Studio Monitors 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 @ 3.5 (1.39v) Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P ASUS 5850 @ 880/1180 (1.118v) 4gb 1333mhz G.Skill DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64gb Crucial M4 SSD 3x 250gb WD2500JD - RAID0 1tb WD1001FALS 1tb WD10EARS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer DLDVD/CDRW Arctic Freezer Pro 64 Win 7 64bit Ultimate E2305 LG 23" LED 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch II Ninja Tenkeyless Fortron BlueStorm II 500w CM 690II Advanced Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
generic Echo Miamidi PCI M-Audio BX5a Studio Monitors 
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post #10 of 30
Thread Starter 
A few days ago, I put system together for the first time. It had taken approximately five hours from start to finish. I had read the documentation before hand and studied the case, parts, and motherboard thoroughly before beginning. Still, there were moments when I had was puzzled by where a certain wire should be placed requiring the help from posting on the forum.

By far the most consuming part of the build was attaching the heatsink, especially properly applying the thermal paste to the bottom of the heatsink. Fortunately, attaching it to the AM3 slot didn't require the mounting screws, but used less cumbersome snap clips.

When everything was put together, the wires and connections double and triple checked for correctness, I braced myself and pressed the power switch.

Nothing. Just silence...

I checked everything again, pressed the power switch, and again there was nothing. At that moment, there was a sudden feeling of panic and helplessness. A part must be defective, but which one? I have not desktop to test the individual parts. How would I figure out the defective part?

Though I didn't believe it would fix it, but I reattached the ATX 24 pin to ensure it was firmly in place. This time, the power supply fired up, the case fans spinning, and a spring of hope quickly erased my earlier anxiety. The hope was quickly erased when the system failed to post, and the cpu fan was lifeless.

I was at a loss to what could be ailing my newly built system. Having tested it earlier, I know the PSU is not the defective part. That leaves the motherboard, cpu, ram, or graphics card?

At this point, I decided the best thing to do was to pose my conundrum on the forum, hoping that someone could unearth what the issue might be. As usual, a stream of helpful replies came streaming on potential solutions.

After reading all of them, I looked over the inside of the case carefully, hoping to see some obvious, yet egregious error keeping my system from booting up into the bios screen. I noticed near the optical drive bay on top, the SATA and power cable was pressed against the ATX 24 pin connector. In my efforts to keep the wires neatly to one side, I had slid a couple of wires right behind the ATX pin, which was firmly fastened.

Could this be it, I thought? No, the pin was firmly and locked in place. There is no way a couple of wires pressed gently against the pin could cause the motherboard from fully powering up.

I decided to make sure and rearranged the cables in a way where they no longer pressed against the 24 pin.

I pressed the power switch, and voila! The cpu fan lit up, and moments later, the gigabyte splash screen appeared on my monitor!

After that, I was able to enter bios, and load Windows 7. Everything has been functioning as it should the past several days including a complete 3 day burn in period.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X2 555 Blk Ed Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 XFX 4890 1GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3 4GB (2 x 2GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD Green SATA - 750 GB Sony Windows 7 Samsung 22 inch LCD 
PowerCase
CORSAIR 650HX 650W Antec 300 Mid Tower ATX 
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