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  • 37% (110)
    Cool!
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    O_O HOLY CRAP
  • 17% (53)
    Interesting but meh
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    :/ meh
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This is an awesome setup but I have to warn you, eyes may explode (pics will be up tomorrow). My stepdad and I have been working on this as a lab setup for my mom so she can use it to learn FAS and whatnot for her job.

This is currently what we have:

2 selves of 10000 RPM 72GB Fiber channel drives
1 shelf of 15K 144GB fiber channel drives
1 shelf of 10K 300GB fiber channel drives
1 shelf of 7200RPM 500GB SATA drives.

Each self has 14 discs

After you take out overhead, formating, blah blah blah, you come out to about 8TB of storage but you consume like 3200W of power XD

The 3 pizza boxes are these:

SC200 - 2 PIII 1.4GHz - 1GB ram (soon to be 4GB) - will run linux
Another Dual PIII - 2 1.4GHz - 1.5GB ram (soon to be at least 4GB) - will run Server 2008
EMC BJ26 - P4 3.4GHz 2GB ram (soon to be 4GB) - will run Exchange
1u running Celly 433MHz - not sure what to do with it
Dell Insperon 2400 - 2.4GHz celly w/ 512MB of ram, soon to be 2GB (and maybe a P4 2.8GHz) - will run linux
+ a Cisco switch which has 24 Ethernet ports on it
and a SilkWorm Fiber swtich

Each item can and usually has to be configured via console lol


Right now we are in the process of getting everything working. Pics will be up tomorrow (hopefully).

Tell me what you think!

Here is what we have setup ATM... Note that is is incomplete. Also, please note, these are Enterprize class!!!!!!!!! They are meant to stay on for extended periods of time (a year or more) without ever going down. Basically, these are what is in a data center.






Edited by Lord Xeb - 12/9/10 at 10:45pm
 
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*scratch head*

PICS!
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I got some sneak photos uploading now. But for some reason OCN does not like them... so I have to put them on Photobucket e_e
 
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post #4 of 154
awesome, all i understood in the OP was:

Fiber
PIZZA!
Pentium
and storage


lol.
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Sneak pics added
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerberus View Post
awesome, all i understood in the OP was:

Fiber
PIZZA!
Pentium
and storage


lol.

Let me knock it down (although I am still wrapping my head around this stuff too because it is all new to me . And I love new stuff!)

Fiber channel. Basically, imagine something similar to fiber optics.
Pizza box - General term given to a slim computer (will have pics of them tomorrow). They can be used as application servers, support consoles, stuff like that. Thick thin PC
<.<
And as for storage, these things are very secure as they can have up to 2 drives fail! And instead of RAID, you have RAID groups and stuff... still learning. Basically, it is fast but more secure than RAID 5. Yet you do not loose as much disc as you would with RAID 5 (Over large volumes, you loose a lot of space. And for RAID 10, forget it. In large volumes you are going though disc space like air!).
Edited by Lord Xeb - 3/26/10 at 10:53pm
 
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awesome!
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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post
And as for storage, these things are very secure as they can have up to 2 drives fail! And instead of RAID, you have RAID groups and stuff... still learning. Basically, it is fast but more secure than RAID 5. Yet you do not loose as much disc as you would with RAID 5 (which is essentially half of your storage).
Actually. No.

RAID-5 is (N-1)S. You don't lose half the storage. You have a storage equivalent to (N-1) disks. The amount of parity data is equal to 1 disk, but spread out over all the drives.

RAID-1 and RAID-10 is half. RAID-10 is a stripe-set composed of mirrored sets. That is, you take a bunch of RAID-1 arrays, and put them in RAID-0, to create the RAID-10 set. Theoretically, you can lose 1 disk in each RAID-1 array and the whole array will still be up. Of course, if you lose both disks in a RAID-1 array, you're f***ed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post
EMC BJ26 - 1 P4 2.8GHz (soon to be upgraded to 3.8GHz) 4GB of RAM - will run Windows Server 2003
I hope you're getting that 3.8GHz upgrade for *really* cheap, because it's not worth upgrading (i.e. not worth spending more money on outdated technology). Granted it's a 1GHz speed increase, unless you're doing something that's CPU-intensive, you won't notice the difference. The system will be fast because you (should) have fast disk system I/O.

Going to be loud as hell with everything going... Guess that's why you have the area sealed (or trying to get it sealed), lol

Have fun with it all
Edited by ComGuards - 3/26/10 at 10:57pm
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Actually. No.

RAID-5 is (N-1)S. You don't lose half the storage. You have a storage equivalent to (N-1) disks. The amount of parity data is equal to 1 disk, but spread out over all the drives.

RAID-1 and RAID-10 is half. RAID-10 is a stripe-set composed of mirrored sets. That is, you take a bunch of RAID-1 arrays, and put them in RAID-0, to create the RAID-10 set. Theoretically, you can lose 1 disk in each RAID-1 array and the whole array will still be up. Of course, if you lose both disks in a RAID-1 array, you're f***ed.
Thanks for clearing that up... LOL <.<
 
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What do you actually intend to do with it all?

You enterprise disks are great if you need high capacity and high IOPS, but if you want to do is run a media server then a few 2TB disks would be a better buy - even if you got the above kit for free, you power bill will be so high running it all that buying modern drives will make more sense financially. If you are doing anything cpu-intensive then a newer system will be considerably faster, and if you don't need lots of capacity then an SSD or 2 would be faster still.
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