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no clue what it is but lots of hardware is lots of fun!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
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It is what they use in datacenters to store data. Imagine, those things with the hard drives in them (FAS), thousands of them. All on a floor stacked between 7 to 14 high each. Some of these data centers are the size of a football field or bigger and just stacked with rows upon rows of FAS.


My mom will be installing these. This lab is to help with her learning the products.
 
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By free, I mean he is getting them off of technet and giving them to us. That is what I mean by "free"
So you do mean illegal then. TechNet licences are non-transferrable. Even if this is just for personal use then your friend is still breaking the terms of the licence agreement. Even if only used for learning/testing, the potential consequences for you/your family/your friend can be severe, especially if any part of their use is business-related.

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Also, for what we are doing (it is just a lab for learning, nothing more) there is no need to upgrade anything or getting bigger badder stuff.
The reason I suggested buying kit was not to get better kit, but to get a legal, valid licence. If the server has a retail COA on it then the licence is transferrable, and you would be entitled to use it. This is (usually) the cheapest way to legally get a Windows Server licence outside of TechNet/MSDN/Dreamspark.
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So you do mean illegal then. TechNet licences are non-transferrable. Even if this is just for personal use then your friend is still breaking the terms of the licence agreement. Even if only used for learning/testing, the potential consequences for you/your family/your friend can be severe, especially if any part of their use is business-related.



The reason I suggested buying kit was not to get better kit, but to get a legal, valid licence. If the server has a retail COA on it then the licence is transferrable, and you would be entitled to use it. This is (usually) the cheapest way to legally get a Windows Server licence outside of TechNet/MSDN/Dreamspark.
e-e I do not see how it is illegal when the technet account is my stepdad's friend's to begin with. He bought it with his own money (I do not know what the guy does). Also none of these things are business related and all personal. But if you say what it is true and that it is illegal, my stepdad will go and figure out something after I let him know. I know a couple of friends that are guy Windows in bulk for resale (they own some stores) and I could ask them if we could buy windows off of them.
 
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I just called my stepdad about the issue, and he is going to ask NetApp for assistance (and they already know about the lab ).
 
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e-e I do not see how it is illegal when the technet account is my stepdad's friend's to begin with. He bought it with his own money (I do not know what the guy does). Also none of these things are business related and all personal. But if you say what it is true and that it is illegal, my stepdad will go and figure out something after I let him know. I know a couple of friends that are guy Windows in bulk for resale (they own some stores) and I could ask them if we could buy windows off of them.
It's illegal because the guy does not own the software, he owns the right to use it as specified in the terms of the licence agreement he signs when he starts his TechNet sub. That agreement says he can't let anyone else use the software - so giving it to you he would be breaking that agreement, and thus be infriging contract law.

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I just called my stepdad about the issue, and he is going to ask NetApp for assistance (and they already know about the lab ).
If this whole setup is to learn new stuff that could be beneficial at work for one or other of your parents, then I would be amazed if they wouldn't hook you up with a licence or 2. That would be much cheaper for them than having to pay to train them up themselves...
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Yep. My stepdad thought of it on the spot We already have the isos we just have no license.
 
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Nice SAN setup you got going... Maybe not the most efficient home setup buy impressive none the less. How much has it it set you back so far, if you don't mind me asking?

EDIT: Definitely play with ESXi! Efficiency goes through the roof when you start utilizing virtualized server environments. In many cases standard servers (webservers, database, etc) don't come close to being fully utilized.
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EDIT: Definitely play with ESXi! Efficiency goes through the roof when you start utilizing virtualized server environments. In many cases standard servers (webservers, database, etc) don't come close to being fully utilized.
I just re-read the original post. None of the hosts have meet the minimum requirements for VMWare ESXi. In particular, systems all lack virtualization technology.

He might be able to get it running under the older VMWare ESXi 3.5, but whitebox support on that revision is far less than ESX(i) 4.x.

Without virtualization support, running a virtual environment is, well, less fulfilling... ("This is so slooowwww")
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Nice SAN setup you got going... Maybe not the most efficient home setup buy impressive none the less. How much has it it set you back so far, if you don't mind me asking?

EDIT: Definitely play with ESXi! Efficiency goes through the roof when you start utilizing virtualized server environments. In many cases standard servers (webservers, database, etc) don't come close to being fully utilized.
So far? 0

Parts were either given to us or my stepdad asked if he could have them.


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I just re-read the original post. None of the hosts have meet the minimum requirements for VMWare ESXi. In particular, systems all lack virtualization technology.

He might be able to get it running under the older VMWare ESXi 3.5, but whitebox support on that revision is far less than ESX(i) 4.x.

Without virtualization support, running a virtual environment is, well, less fulfilling... ("This is so slooowwww")

I only stated ESX because i thought that maybe that is something my stepdad wants to do but IDK...

Actually, one of the servers had ESX installed on it and ran fine. The P4 that is in the U2 we got has visualization support

But we are most likely going to end up running Windows Server and Ubuntu server on these machines. The 3rd OS I have no idea.
 
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