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No - and Yes. Not meant to increase the speed of the SSD but rather to increase the speed of the system and thereby maximize the benefit of adding an expensive SSD



Agreed. SSD's can indeed be bricked by unnecessary write/read/writes.





I can't imagine a reason for being redundant in starting a separate thread. The questions I ask should be 1, 2, 3, 4 directly addressed in a thread with this title.

I'm guessing that there are two reasons for my questions not being answered:

1) A confusion of G1 and G2 - and how to maximize the efficiency and life of each - all coming out as a univocal "Must Do" which cannot be applied to each in the same way. They are very different iterations of SSD.

2) SSD's are still so new that we are all flailing around in the dark here, such that only with experimentation will we ever be able to say, for example, load these programs on the SSD or load them instead on your HD.


Please understand that I don't feel my questions are at all off topic, though I mean no disrespect here. If anything, I am guilty of being pedantic.

Anyway, my Intel G2 SSD just arrived by UPS, so the poop is about to hit the fan.

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OK, put OS and everything associated with it, all Virus/Malware programs, CCleaner, Reg Cleaner, anything that will aid the OS and SSD on the SSD. Everything else, Office (it may want to go on the C drive, if so then put it there but I wouldn't if it will go on the D drive) should go on the D drive = HD.
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Just wanted to say thanks for the guide

Installed my SSD in the lappy just yesterday (no updates or tweaks), between a firmware update and some of the things I did from this today I can REALLY notice a difference.

Not that WEI is a great indicator, but drive score went from 5.9 to 7.7 after all was said and done
I'll do a quick ssd benchie too (know it's not really great to do it), but I gotta know
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Just wanted to say thanks for the guide

Installed my SSD in the lappy just yesterday (no updates or tweaks), between a firmware update and some of the things I did from this today I can REALLY notice a difference.

Not that WEI is a great indicator, but drive score went from 5.9 to 7.7 after all was said and done
I'll do a quick ssd benchie too (know it's not really great to do it), but I gotta know
The only time benchies are bad is when doing them like every day. But it's fine to do them like once a month or so.

Anyway, yeah: welcome to the club, so to speak!
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Thanks for the guide. I've been all over the 'net looking for SSD tweaks and I found a few here that weren't available anywhere else.

I'm amused by the discussion here by some who say these aren't necessary or even desirable. I can only say that my boot and shut-down times are noticeably improved and I don't see my drive doing nearly as many writes. These are all good things in my estimation. But it is true that they aren't necessary. They are for the speed and longevity-obsessed (like me).

So, again, thanks to the OP and all contributors.
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Thanks for the guide. I've been all over the 'net looking for SSD tweaks and I found a few here that weren't available anywhere else.

I'm amused by the discussion here by some who say these aren't necessary or even desirable. I can only say that my boot and shut-down times are noticeably improved and I don't see my drive doing nearly as many writes. These are all good things in my estimation. But it is true that they aren't necessary. They are for the speed and longevity-obsessed (like me).

So, again, thanks to the OP and all contributors.
Thanks! Soon I will be adding a new chapter that may prove the best tweak ever.. In testing now. Faster with less writes.
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Thanks! Soon I will be adding a new chapter that may prove the best tweak ever.. In testing now. Faster with less writes.
Sweet! Looking forward to testing it out.
    
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I have an Adata S599 that should get here tomorrow. From reading the guide I plan to install Win 7 64bit (use quick format), make sure the BIOS is set for AHCI for the drives, and when I install any other programs (Like CCC, games ext) I'll put those on my partition on my black HDD. Just planning to run the OS only on the SSD.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211485
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I plan to install Win 7 64bit (use quick format)
Better check on that first!

"OBakeMono" Just curious if you know what that actually means? Interesting choice.

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install any other programs ... on my partition on my black HDD
Not knowing how big/small this SSD is, that may or may not be a good plan.
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Better check on that first!

"OBakeMono" Just curious if you know what that actually means? Interesting choice.



Not knowing how big/small this SSD is, that may or may not be a good plan.
Obakemono-Yes I do. Just like Bakezori, my favorite one.

OT:I'll re-read the tutorial. Oh the drive is 64gb
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I have an Adata S599 that should get here tomorrow. From reading the guide I plan to install Win 7 64bit (use quick format), make sure the BIOS is set for AHCI for the drives, and when I install any other programs (Like CCC, games ext) I'll put those on my partition on my black HDD. Just planning to run the OS only on the SSD.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211485
The only formatting option in the Windows 7 installer is the quick format. Microsoft removed the longer-lasting format because there's only one difference between these two types of formats: the longer-lasting one thoroughly scans the drive for errors and then corrects them if possible. So that's why it takes longer to format the drive! Other than that, both of these types are identical. So, the Quick Format does nothing but specify the format of the drive. The longer-lasting one begins by scanning the drive for errors, fixing them if possible, and then it finishes by specifying the format.

You see, the format itself actually takes just a few seconds because it's just doing one thing: it replaces the existing Master File Table a new one in the specified format (or in the case of a fresh drive, it just gives it its first MFT). That's why it's called "formatting" a drive. With the Windows 7 installer, the specified format is always NTFS.

So, this is why data recovery is still possible on a drive that has been formatted. But it's just that using a special data recovery method is required since the Master File Table is now blank and therefore impossible to find any of your files using an operating system. In other words, formatting a drive doesn't touch any of your data. All formatting a drive does is it sets the format of the drive so that an operating system knows how you want it to organize the data onto the drive. It's like building your own computer case using the Standard ATX Form Factor. That "form factor" is basically the same as the "format" of your drive.

Now, the reason why Microsoft simplified it like this is because today's drives are so good that this disk scan has become a waste of time.

But yes: when you go to install Windows 7, just install it. I mean, it's a fresh drive, so formatting it shouldn't be necessary. But if you need to format it, then I bet the installer will tell you.


But one more thing about formatting a drive: have you ever heard anyone mention what the "format" of a radio station is? Well, we can say this about my solid state drive: its format is NTFS. Somebody had to specify that format, right?

So, formatting is not a process of deleting/erasing the data off the drive. It's just a process that specifies the format of the drive going forward which is why it replaces the previous MFT with a blank one. The MFT is the proverbial "slate" that gets wiped clean which makes any operating system (including DOS) think the drive is empty because there are no files listed in the MFT. Except, the existing MFT isn't getting wiped clean, it's just getting replaced with a new one in the specified format (it never matters if there's an existing MFT or not).
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