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Yeah, I've seen that. But apparently, from what I've read, using Secure Erase, like I linked to, works better. Maybe all I need to do is run Parted Magic and see what my options are. I wish I didn't have to do this but my SSD is slowing down. I ran DISKPART \clean all last night and reinstalled Windows but my speeds didn't improve. I need to get the drive back to factory settings.

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Yeah, I've seen that. But apparently, from what I've read, using Secure Erase, like I linked to, works better. Maybe all I need to do is run Parted Magic and see what my options are. I wish I didn't have to do this but my SSD is slowing down. I ran DISKPART \clean all last night and reinstalled Windows but my speeds didn't improve. I need to get the drive back to factory settings.
It looks like HDDErase is Secure Erase:

From the guide on OCZ's website: "1. Download HDDErase (http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml) and copy it on a bootable USB drive. If you don't know how to make your USB drive bootable, please see this tutorial: Make your OCZ Flash Drive Bootable - Vista and FreeDOS"

Even Google points me there when I search for "HDDErase":

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sclient=psy&num=10&hl=en&safe=off&site=webhp&source=hp&q=hdderase&aq=f&aqi=g6&aql=t&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=83f87efc6f926f13
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Yeah, HDDErase will work. I just want to use Parted Magic is all
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Originally Posted by TwoCables;11956204 
hehe I admit that I cringed a bit when I read the part about how you used an image of your system. smile.gif

But once it's aligned, then it's no problem to use an image next time.

Well, sigh, I ended up having to do a complete fresh install. I used the windows command console diskpart software to do a CLEAN ALL function, partition the drive and set an offset at 2048k.

I found quite a few sites that mentioned the offset, and what value they thought it should be, but most opinions were ambiguous at best. One site says anything divisible by 4 is fine and he recommended 64k, another says to use 1024k, another says to use 2048K, and then there was your post showing your system using 103424k....aaarrrggggg!!!!!!gunner.gif

I trained as a computer engineering technologist, and took hard drives (although that was 20 years ago), and even I still cannot make a simple decision like what offset to use on an SSD because there are so many differing opinions. I ended up splitting the difference and using the one recommendation for 2048k. When I run AS SSD now I get 2048 K - OK
My benches for the 60Gb Patriot Inferno are:

HD Tune: Average 247.4MB/s (best of three benches).

AS SSD:

Seq: Read 199.07 MB/s, Write 61.26MB/s
4K: Read 20.14MB/s, Write 58.27MB/s
4K-64Thrd: Read 102.00MB/s, Write 61.34MB/s
Acc.time: Read 0.192ms, write 0.238ms
Score: Read 142, Write 126, Overall 342.

There seem to be a couple of pretty big differences between this bench and the one I took with the incorrect offset.

For example, my old benchmark had a slight improvement in the 4K read, but the 4K write went from 11.66MB/s to 58.27MB/s. The 4K-64 test is a huge improvement for both read (from 65.8MB/s to 102.00MB/s) and write (from 26.27MB/s to 61.34MB/s). With improvements like this I suppose the reinstall of Windows 7 was worth it.

However, when looking at the sequential read and write scores there is not a lot of improvement (10MB/s read, 1MB/s write) and the HDTune benchmark did not change much at all.

Well, as far as I know I have everything working the way it should be. Those should be pretty reliable benchmarks for anyone interested in the Patriot Inferno line of SSDs (60GB).

Once again, thanks for all the posts. They really helped a lot.
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Originally Posted by Mergatroid;12002038 
Well, sigh, I ended up having to do a complete fresh install. I used the windows command console diskpart software to do a CLEAN ALL function, partition the drive and set an offset at 2048k.

I found quite a few sites that mentioned the offset, and what value they thought it should be, but most opinions were ambiguous at best. One site says anything divisible by 4 is fine and he recommended 64k, another says to use 1024k, another says to use 2048K, and then there was your post showing your system using 103424k....aaarrrggggg!!!!!!gunner.gif

I trained as a computer engineering technologist, and took hard drives (although that was 20 years ago), and even I still cannot make a simple decision like what offset to use on an SSD because there are so many differing opinions. I ended up splitting the difference and using the one recommendation for 2048k. When I run AS SSD now I get 2048 K - OK
My benches for the 60Gb Patriot Inferno are:

HD Tune: Average 247.4MB/s (best of three benches).

AS SSD:

Seq: Read 199.07 MB/s, Write 61.26MB/s
4K: Read 20.14MB/s, Write 58.27MB/s
4K-64Thrd: Read 102.00MB/s, Write 61.34MB/s
Acc.time: Read 0.192ms, write 0.238ms
Score: Read 142, Write 126, Overall 342.

There seem to be a couple of pretty big differences between this bench and the one I took with the incorrect offset.

For example, my old benchmark had a slight improvement in the 4K read, but the 4K write went from 11.66MB/s to 58.27MB/s. The 4K-64 test is a huge improvement for both read (from 65.8MB/s to 102.00MB/s) and write (from 26.27MB/s to 61.34MB/s). With improvements like this I suppose the reinstall of Windows 7 was worth it.

However, when looking at the sequential read and write scores there is not a lot of improvement (10MB/s read, 1MB/s write) and the HDTune benchmark did not change much at all.

Well, as far as I know I have everything working the way it should be. Those should be pretty reliable benchmarks for anyone interested in the Patriot Inferno line of SSDs (60GB).

Once again, thanks for all the posts. They really helped a lot.
Mine does not say "103424 K - OK" (it never did). It says "1024 KB - OK". That's also what I aligned my SSD to (both of them, actually) using DiskPart.

Anyway, are you using Intel's Rapid Storage Technology driver?
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Originally Posted by Flyboys;11986233 
Made all changes to current OS manually using Magic-Man as Aid
Intall Intel SSD as additional drive
Make image and transfer to SSD using intel provided software
Disconnect Raid drives
Install SSD as boot drive
Restart system and change boot drive in BIOS
Everybody is Happy.

Nice. What software was it from Intel that you used? Did it create a system image with the correct offset? Did it make a bootable image right on the SSD? That's pretty sweet.
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Mine does not say "103424 K - OK" (it never did). It says "1024 KB - OK". That's also what I aligned my SSD to (both of them, actually) using DiskPart.

Anyway, are you using Intel's Rapid Storage Technology driver?


I am using Intel(R) ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller version 9.6.0.1014.

I'm not too sure what Intel Rapid Storage Technology does. It seems like it's a management tool for RAID arrays. I don't think the southbridge on my motherboard supports it, although it's funny that the interface for it was installed with the Intel AHCI drivers. My southbridge is the ICH10 chip which I don't think has any support for raid (nothing in the manual anyway).
Edited by Mergatroid - 1/13/11 at 7:02pm
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I am using Intel(R) ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller version 9.6.0.1014.

I'm not too sure what Intel Rapid Storage Technology does. It seems like it's a management tool for RAID arrays. I don't think the southbridge on my motherboard supports it, although it's funny that the interface for it was installed with the Intel AHCI drivers. My southbridge is the ICH10 chip which I don't think has any support for raid (nothing in the manual anyway).
But the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver still provides a benefit for people like us who don't have a RAID setup.

When I upgraded from the generic Microsoft AHCI driver to the Intel Matrix Storage Manager version 8.9 (which is actually just the older version of the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver), I didn't notice a difference. But when I installed version 9.6, my reboot time was faster. And then when I installed version 10.0.0.1046, my restart time was faster yet again, except it wasn't as big of a difference as it was when upgrading from 8.9 to 9.6.

Your entire system supports it, and you should be seeing some kind of benefit from it. And if you want t check out 10.0.0.1046, then here's the English-only installer:

http://home.comcast.net/~twocables/intel_rst_10.0.0.1046%28www.station-drivers.com%29.exe
Edited by TwoCables - 1/14/11 at 3:25am
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Originally Posted by Mergatroid;12002311 
Nice. What software was it from Intel that you used? Did it create a system image with the correct offset? Did it make a bootable image right on the SSD? That's pretty sweet.

The software came with Intel X25-M SSD 120GB G2. Its the Intel Data Migration Software.

It did create a system image with correct offset, and make a bootablee image on SSD.

It says that it only works with Intel SSD. It also says that this software provided by Acronis True Image.

Very simple, quick and easy.
Edited by Flyboys - 1/14/11 at 10:05am
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Link here: http://www.intel.com/support
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