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Here are the facts: dual core CPUs will start being utilized over the next year or two by nearly all games. Having two cores that are actually being used will dramatically improve your performace. Currently, there are no games that actually use both cores, so you will actually see very little performance increase with a dual core. If you plan on keeping this rig for at least a year and a half to two years, it may be worth it to go with a dual core, otherwise, go with a single core (a 3700+ San Diego is a fantastic single core CPU for OCing).

If you do go with a dual core, I would DEFINATELY go with an Opteron, as they are already showing themselves to be the superior overclockers. Opterons have much higher multiplyers unlocked and lower voltages, which mean lower temperatures at higher speeds. As far as dual cores go, an Opty is definately the way to go.
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Originally Posted by Zardokk
Opterons have much higher multiplyers unlocked
Who told you that?
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Maybe I got mixed up on that one...I thought I saw someone with an Opty at a 14x multiplyer. It could've been a different CPU or a result of an IHS removal and mod, but I thought it was just a stock Opty.
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post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by Zardokk
Here are the facts: dual core CPUs will start being utilized over the next year or two by nearly all games. Having two cores that are actually being used will dramatically improve your performace. Currently, there are no games that actually use both cores, so you will actually see very little performance increase with a dual core. If you plan on keeping this rig for at least a year and a half to two years, it may be worth it to go with a dual core, otherwise, go with a single core (a 3700+ San Diego is a fantastic single core CPU for OCing).

If you do go with a dual core, I would DEFINATELY go with an Opteron, as they are already showing themselves to be the superior overclockers. Opterons have much higher multiplyers unlocked and lower voltages, which mean lower temperatures at higher speeds. As far as dual cores go, an Opty is definately the way to go.
Yeah, that's totally wrong, they are only unlocked downwards. Price for price, they'll have lower multi's and stock core speeds than x2s, and even though they are rated for lower voltages, they run at 110W whereas as the manchester cores run at 89W (the power of some single core mobile processors ), which is the reason amd processors dissappate heat so much more effectively then pentium duallys, and overclock better...
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post #15 of 25
Quote:
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Maybe I got mixed up on that one...I thought I saw someone with an Opty at a 14x multiplyer. It could've been a different CPU or a result of an IHS removal, but I thought it was just a stock Opty.
Removing the IHS only helps lower temps. Nope, no higher multipliers on Opterons and no mods to unlock.
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Ok, ok. I was wrong about the multis, but yeah...they do run cooler. So I was somewhat right.
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I have to agree with Zardokk get the single core 3700+ san diego. Now I have to back this up. with duals cores yes they might seem to be the LATEST fad but think about a year or 2 from now, quad cores anyone? so I mean you could go out and get dual core and wait a year or whater for technology to take full advantage of it by that time quad core might be in development. personally I got a single core cause I know it could hold me over for about 2 to 3 years. Im not looking to change anyones opinions but I would seriously wait for quad core to come out.

just chose which ever one meets you needs also go here to give you some idea's,

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html
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post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by Zardokk
Ok, ok. I was wrong about the multis, but yeah...they do run cooler. So I was somewhat right.
they dont run cooler either his comparison was the 110w (p4) against the 89watt manchester (x2 NOT opteron) the opterons are denmark cores.
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post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon
While everyone else is bickering about Opterons and such, I'll focus on this point...

What are your plans for the machine? E.g., if you're building a gaming rig, the dual core won't usually buy you very much because games are all still single threaded. Spending less money now to buy hardware that today's software will actually exploit is my usual approach, why pay a premium for hardware that will go largely underutilized?

Unless you have multithreaded apps, I don't see the point just yet. Except maybe to pay the premium now to futureproof yourself, since you might have those apps in a year or so.
Now that's what i call a measured approach to the situation. I m in total agreement with you.

Gamming that utilises dual core CPU's is sometime off and would not hold my breath waiting.
As mentioned buy your hardware for now to suit your requirement. Cut back on the CPU purchase and purchase a better GPU and RAM, which will yield a better performance for gamming. If you need dual core purchase one at a later date (surely for a lower price then now).

As for the CPU choice a 3700+ Sandiego core would be the best choice as it has the L2 cache of 1Mb or step down to a Venice core in the 3200+ to 3500+ but it only utilises a L2 cache of 512Mb. Both of these will give you a very good base to form a gamming rig upon.


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