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If you havent already ordered the Vapochill I highly reccomend getting something else, it every review I have seen it performs quite poorly, also the reason it is called Vapochill is it uses a semi-heatpipe design and some people consider heatpipes to be liquid cooling (cough, Microsoft, the Xbox360 is advertised as having liquid cooling and all it has is a heatpipe heatsink ) and some even think heatpipes are phase change! LOL!
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post #32 of 40
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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701
Sweet i was thinking about the zalman 9500 myself but i wasnt really willing to spend £40 on a cooler right now.
Hi Enterprise1701,

You asked early in this thread about the Zalman 9500 vs the Vaporchill vs the XP-90 that Highly Annoyed offered you. I think you've settled on the Vaporchill, but I wanted to add my experience with the XP-90. I had a Zalman 7000Cu on my P4 3.2 Northwood 478 socket. I was not that happy with it. It was heavy, big and cooling was not what I thought it should be. Most cpu temps were 32degC idle and upwards of 58degC loaded with PCMark05 or 3DMark05. With the XP-90 under the same loads, it runs 3degC cooler at idle and just breaks 51degC under load. I overclock the P4 by running the fsb to 220 when gaming. This gives a mulitplied overclock of 3.520. The above temps are with the fsb at 210. I run the 210 fsb all of the time, especially when just listening to music and reading stuff here. :-)

Since cooling results can be very objective, I find the difference between my cpu temps and room temps make a big difference. Large enough in fact that during the winter I overclock, during the summer I don't. What I've found so far with the XP-90 Alum version is a 3degC drop from the Zalman 7000Cu. The room temps are virtually the same 19.5degC for the Zalman and 20degC for the XP-90. The case temps in my Lian Li do not move more than 2degC. My actual baseline for the performance of a cooler is not what the cpu temps are, but the difference between the cpu temps and room temps. I like about a 10-12degC difference. My old SLK800 was able to achieve this with the hot running XP2000+ AMD cpu. The Zalman never got me below a 15degC difference on the P4, but the XP-90 does easily.
The XP-90 weighs less by over 300grams and certainly cost less. As for fans, I used the Zalman fan on their cooler and because I had an older style Enermax 92mm adjustable fan laying around I used that one on the XP-90. The Emermax fan produces over 50cfm on high (2500rpm) with about 32dbA. Not too bad in my opinion. On low, I have to check the case window to make sure it's turning.

My experience with Thermalright vs other manufacturers is that they get it right. From their old SK-6 to the SLK 800 and beyond, their coolers offer great results. I'm very happy with my XP-90. The Vapochill looks very interesting and the engineering behind it looks sound as well. Post back and let us know what you find out.

Thanks for the thread and listening, :-)
post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by Remonster
If you havent already ordered the Vapochill I highly reccomend getting something else, it every review I have seen it performs quite poorly, also the reason it is called Vapochill is it uses a semi-heatpipe design and some people consider heatpipes to be liquid cooling (cough, Microsoft, the Xbox360 is advertised as having liquid cooling and all it has is a heatpipe heatsink ) and some even think heatpipes are phase change! LOL!
Hi Remonster,

I'd have to agree with you on your statement about the Vaporchill Micro. These reviewers were underwelmed: http://www.atruereview.com/asetek_va...icro/index.php

In this review at Viperlair the Zalman 9500 and Vaporchill were close. Viperlair was really gaga over the Vaporchill at first...
http://www.viperlair.com/reviews/coo...00/index.shtml
On that same web site reviews of the XP-90 and your Big Typhoon can also be read.
I'd say you have the best cooler right now. But it is big and I can't fit it or other 120mm type coolers in my Lian Li case. I'll stick with my XP-90.

Take care,
post #34 of 40
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 455buick
Hi Enterprise1701,

You asked early in this thread about the Zalman 9500 vs the Vaporchill vs the XP-90 that Highly Annoyed offered you. I think you've settled on the Vaporchill, but I wanted to add my experience with the XP-90. I had a Zalman 7000Cu on my P4 3.2 Northwood 478 socket. I was not that happy with it. It was heavy, big and cooling was not what I thought it should be. Most cpu temps were 32degC idle and upwards of 58degC loaded with PCMark05 or 3DMark05. With the XP-90 under the same loads, it runs 3degC cooler at idle and just breaks 51degC under load. I overclock the P4 by running the fsb to 220 when gaming. This gives a mulitplied overclock of 3.520. The above temps are with the fsb at 210. I run the 210 fsb all of the time, especially when just listening to music and reading stuff here. :-)

Since cooling results can be very objective, I find the difference between my cpu temps and room temps make a big difference. Large enough in fact that during the winter I overclock, during the summer I don't. What I've found so far with the XP-90 Alum version is a 3degC drop from the Zalman 7000Cu. The room temps are virtually the same 19.5degC for the Zalman and 20degC for the XP-90. The case temps in my Lian Li do not move more than 2degC. My actual baseline for the performance of a cooler is not what the cpu temps are, but the difference between the cpu temps and room temps. I like about a 10-12degC difference. My old SLK800 was able to achieve this with the hot running XP2000+ AMD cpu. The Zalman never got me below a 15degC difference on the P4, but the XP-90 does easily.
The XP-90 weighs less by over 300grams and certainly cost less. As for fans, I used the Zalman fan on their cooler and because I had an older style Enermax 92mm adjustable fan laying around I used that one on the XP-90. The Emermax fan produces over 50cfm on high (2500rpm) with about 32dbA. Not too bad in my opinion. On low, I have to check the case window to make sure it's turning.

My experience with Thermalright vs other manufacturers is that they get it right. From their old SK-6 to the SLK 800 and beyond, their coolers offer great results. I'm very happy with my XP-90. The Vapochill looks very interesting and the engineering behind it looks sound as well. Post back and let us know what you find out.

Thanks for the thread and listening, :-)
Wow thanks for the reveiw there mate..Yeah i didnt go for the xp-90 because i realised for my CPU it wouldnt be a good enough cooler IMO and from the people bad mouthing the vapochill all the reviews i read on it i was rather happy with plus ive seen one of these in action and the temps were good.
post #35 of 40
Hi Enterprise1701,

No problem about the long winded review! Just thought I'd let you know about my experiences. I believe that's what this forum is all about. Sharing those types of things and letting people make intelligent decisions. If you've seen the Vaporchill in action, like it and feel comfortable with it, well then, you made the right choice. Let us all know how it works for you. I think the Vaporchill Mini is a good design and their other products are very well received in the maket place.

Take care, :-)
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE1701
Wow thanks for the reveiw there mate..Yeah i didnt go for the xp-90 because i realised for my CPU it wouldnt be a good enough cooler IMO and from the people bad mouthing the vapochill all the reviews i read on it i was rather happy with plus ive seen one of these in action and the temps were good.
BTW - Ent1701,

Thanks for the Rep+. That pushed me to 100 and my second blue flame, Wow! I hope I can continue to help others in this forum, or at least pass on some hard earned experiences...

Thanks again... :-)
post #37 of 40
Thread Starter 
Hey there guys i got my Vapochill today and well for some reason the 4 pin connector from the fan that goes into the fan controller does fit as the plug onth e fan controller is pnly a 3 pin ..Anyideas
post #38 of 40
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post #39 of 40
Don't bump in 5 minutes!

The fan has a molex connector? Then you need an adapter to a 3 pin fan header to use it on the motherboard or in a fan controller. What fan controller do you have? Mine came with 4 adapters.
post #40 of 40
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by muffin
Don't bump in 5 minutes!

The fan has a molex connector? Then you need an adapter to a 3 pin fan header to use it on the motherboard or in a fan controller. What fan controller do you have? Mine came with 4 adapters.
Well not to worry i have fixed this problem as its a fault in manufactering and went to the main website and got instructions on how to fix it
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