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What is a reference-design card?
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Why would I want a reference-design ATI card over a non-reference one?
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If you're picky about quality control, the reference cards are usually over-engineered a bit, with the intention of building a quality, stable platform for the GPU to ensure no issues during the testing process. So, a reference-design model gives you some assurance as far as quality control.
Finally, if you are a water-cooler, or wish to purchase aftermarket air-cooling gear for your card, you'll find that much of that gear (water blocks, Prolimatech or Thermalright heatsinks, etc.) is designed for the reference design cards, and may not be compatible with a non-reference design.
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How do I tell a reference-design Radeon 5xxx card from a non-reference design?
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Note: ATI did NOT release a reference design for the Radeon 5830, so there are no reference cards. Some 5830 cards, however, have been built on the 5870 reference design, and if so, should be relatively easy to spot due to card length and power connector location, as shown below.
First off, most reference design 5850, 5870, and (possibly, I've now seen a number of 5970s that don't) 5970 cards carry an "AMD" name and logo above the PCIe slot connector, as shown on the 5870 below. Non-reference cards will never have the logo. The reference PCB is usually black on the 5xxx series, as it was red on the 4xxx series.

To the best of my knowledge, all reference ATI 5770-and-higher cards all use the AMD/ATI "Phoenix" cooling shroud, referred to by many as the "Batmobile" cooler. This shroud has a front-mounted squirrel-cage type fan as shown above. If the card you are looking at has a mid-mounted fan, it is unlikely to be a reference design; double-check by looking for that "AMD" logo. Note that reference 5750 cards use the "egg-style" cooler, shown below. I've also noted that some reference 5750/5770 cards do not appear to have the AMD logo, but do appear to have the black PCB.

Reference Radeon 5870 cards have their PCIe power connectors on TOP of the card, NOT the leading edge towards the front of the case. This is only true of the 5870 cards; 5850 and 5770 reference cards have them on the front edge, inside the top port of the Phoenix shroud.
Reference design 5870:

Non-reference (note both the power connector location and the mid-mounted fan):

If I find more definitive info or get corrections from others, I will let you all know. Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, ALL current 5870 Eyefinity-6 editions are reference designs, since it is a relatively new card. If you want to be sure and you have the cash, you can go with one of those.
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Oh no! I got a non-reference design card! Is that bad?
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UPDATE 5/13/10 -- It has come to my attention that XFX is selling non-reference ATI 5770 cards that look very much like a reference design. They appear to have the Phoenix-shroud cooler, as well as the squirrel cage fan. However, they only have one Crossfire connector, rather than the two found on a reference-design card. While there probably aren't many of you that wish to run three 5770 cards in TriFire mode, there might be those of you who wish to buy a reference 5770 for voltage adjustment --and these cards do not have the necessary voltage regulation circuitry. Note the picture below, which shows both the (old) reference design, and the (new) non-reference one.

The number of reference-design cards in production is getting smaller, unfortunately. Diamond is one of the last companies I know that consistently sells reference design cards across most of the 5xxx product line. I can't say anything one way or another about their customer service, but if you want a reference card, and you want it brand-new, they are one of the few remaining choices, unless you have the cash for a 5870 Eyefinity-6, or the cash AND the space in your case for a 5970.
Edited by LoneWolf15 - 6/7/10 at 2:31pm











