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Alrighty then...well as some may know I hit the 4.0 mark a couple of days ago but, I was unable to truly stress it until today with Prime95. At first I was confident about my temps as they never hit above 69C while running Intel Burn but, when I started running Prime today I noticed that my 2nd core crapped out rather quickly. Everything I have read points to adding volts to the vcore and I would like to see what everybody here thinks.


My CPUZ reads the vcore 1.20V @ idle and 1.18V-1.16V @ load
My BIOS reads the vcare 1.22V @ boot.


Code:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [ENABLED]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[DISABLED]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [DISABLED]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [DISABLED]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [DISABLED]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [DISABLED]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [ENABLED]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [ENABLED]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[6.87ghz] [AUTO]
Uncore Frequency ............................[3056] x16


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [ENABLED]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[191]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [quick]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [profile1] 
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [auto]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [standard]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.23750] 


DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.64]

Please let me know if you need any additional information and thanks for looking.
You could turn on LLC but that's just personal taste. Might shave some idle voltage off and you're not really in the danger zone for spikes. Tweaking an OC with LLC disabled might be a bit harder because you have to take vdrop into account. (I use level 2)

Anyway, you'll slowly need to start upping your vcore and what is your QPI/VTT voltage at atm?

QPI/VTT goes up in synch with ramspeed;
-> 1600mhz RAM = around 1.35v
-> 2000mhz RAM = up to 1.50v (maybe even higher)

I see you're using the right DRAM ratio, 2:8, that's the most stable, always check that your uncore is running 2 times your RAM speed. QPI link speed/ratio is OK as well.

You're also running the 21 multi which is the most stable for OC'ing.

So far from what I can see there you're off to a good start r2tbone.

Check this guide for some info on Prime errors, a worker crapping out soon is Vcore voltage.

A sidenote; why no HT enabled r2? It'll cause more heat and need more voltage but if you're tweaking and getting that stable OC it might be wise to enable it and get it out of the way now, as opposed to wanting to turn it on later and having to start "all over".

Anyway, looking good mate, go get em!
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QPI/VTT is set to auto. (currently) 1.20V

I ended up backing down to 3.8ghz for moment until I find a solution for the heat. I set the QPI/VTT to 1.35V and increased the vcore incrementally until I got it to 1.27V and then started to run Prime95. The temps jumped to 70C with the first few minutes and were hitting the low 80s before I shut it down to see if I could cool it down. I am thinking that the Dark Knight may not be up to the challenge so, I may have to back down until I find a solution.

Code:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ...................... [ENABLED]
CPU Cores Enabled .............................. [All]
CPU Multi Threading .............................[DISABLED]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ........................ [DISABLED]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ......................... [DISABLED]
CPU Thermal Monitor ............................ [DISABLED]
CPU EIST Function .............................. [DISABLED]
Virtualization Technology ...................... [ENABLED]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ......................... [ENABLED]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed ..............................[6.51ghz] [AUTO]
Uncore Frequency ............................[2896] x16


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control .......................... [ENABLED]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ................................[181]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [quick]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [profile1] 
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [8 ]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [auto]


Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping
Load Line Calibration ................. [standard]
CPU Vcore ..............................[1.23750] 
QPI/VTT..................................[auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.64]
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With this setup I am able to idle @ 45C and max out @ 72C in Prime and 65C SMP Client. Room temp 22C. Any thoughts?
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Yeah you need a pretty good cooling solution for that i7 once you close into 4ghz. Maybe put a push/pull config on that Dark Knight? Not sure that it really benefits from it though, not familiar with it myself.

Low 80s in Prime is a wee bit hot yeah, the extra QPI/VTT (+ the vcore) is bound to cause some more heat... What you could try or do is run these stresstests with an open case if you`re sure no real world application is going to stress your CPU like Prime or LinX (I`ld steer clear of LinX/Intelburntest with those temps)

For now that 3.8 profile looks pretty good mate, temps are OK as well. An I7 @ 3.8 is more than fast enough tbh, allthough it`s nice to be able to put that 4ghz behind your name...

You`ll also need to figure out your chips sweet spot, is it worth a ton more voltage just for 200mhz...

Anyway looks like you`re being pretty methodical about your OC, it takes time and makes you want to pull your hairs out but in the end it`s the best way.
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QPI/VTT is set to auto. (currently) 1.20V

I ended up backing down to 3.8ghz for moment until I find a solution for the heat. I set the QPI/VTT to 1.35V and increased the vcore incrementally until I got it to 1.27V and then started to run Prime95. The temps jumped to 70C with the first few minutes and were hitting the low 80s before I shut it down to see if I could cool it down. I am thinking that the Dark Knight may not be up to the challenge so, I may have to back down until I find a solution.

With this setup I am able to idle @ 45C and max out @ 72C in Prime and 65C SMP Client. Room temp 22C. Any thoughts?
I would suggest a water cooling kit like this. You're almost maxing out your chips temps. Or, you can get a 20 ton air cooler like this.
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Update

Well this is what I did last night after I made my last post.

Lowered my Vcore to 1.20 to try to shed a few degrees and maintain a stable 3.8 and it worked quite well. But, the big surprise came after that.
I had full intention of changing out my PC P&C Silencer 750W for my Corsair TW750 because the Corsair lacked a 4 pin 12V cable that I would need for the e8400/Nvidia Folding rig I am building.
Well, as we all know changing out a PSU requires rearranging almost everything in the case. So, as I was making my way through the change out, I go ahead and clean out everything. The fans had a small amount of duct collecting but, nothing too dirty and I wrapped up some cables that were sagging yet, there wasn't much really impeding the airflow of the case.

Fan Break-down

All case fans are Coolermaster 120mm R4s / Dark Knight with stock fan
All case fans controlled by a Sunbeam Rheobus
Coolermaster Cosmos Case

1 Rear Exhaust 120mm -full power
2 Top Exhaust 120mm -half power
2 Bottom Intake 120mm (I removed bottom HHD bays and modded a 120mm on radbox intake) - full power
1 Top Front Intake 120mm (under optical) full power

All intakes are filtered.


I mounted the the TX750W with the fan pointing down to allow the 140mm exhaust fan to blow out of the case.
I also put a spare Silverstone 120mm fan in place to draw air from the front intake and push it to the Dark Knight. (I think this was the difference maker)

Well I get everything put back in order and boot up and I am surprised by my BIOS temp reading of 37C but, I don't think much of it because I know it has been off for some time. When I get into 7 and load CoreTemp, I notice that idle is still 38C so I run Prime to see what I get. (3.8 @ 1.20) My temps never break 60C during an hour of Prime. (CPUZ 1.18V idle / 1.21V load) Needless to say, I am very pleased with this. My first reaction is to take it to 4.0 so, I reboot and do just that. I take the BCLK to 191 and reboot.
Idle is around 39C and Prime runs at 68C after 2 hours with 0 errors.
So, I decided to give it a real life benchmark by running my -smp client on it and was thrilled when the temps never reached 65C and I let it run for 7 hours overnight and only turned it off when a bad storm came through. It was still bouncing between 64-65C after an all night fold.

GRANTED, I haven't booted up yet today and I don't know what surprises I left for me to discover but, all in do time.

phone pic below shows it all cleaned up, with the addition of the Silverstone in the bay.
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I want to jion please! =]
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Screen from last night, I wish I would have gotten one of this morning.
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Originally Posted by r2tbone View Post
Update

Well this is what I did last night after I made my last post.

Lowered my Vcore to 1.20 to try to shed a few degrees and maintain a stable 3.8 and it worked quite well. But, the big surprise came after that.
I had full intention of changing out my PC P&C Silencer 750W for my Corsair TW750 because the Corsair lacked a 4 pin 12V cable that I would need for the e8400/Nvidia Folding rig I am building.
Well, as we all know changing out a PSU requires rearranging almost everything in the case. So, as I was making my way through the change out, I go ahead and clean out everything. The fans had a small amount of duct collecting but, nothing too dirty and I wrapped up some cables that were sagging yet, there wasn't much really impeding the airflow of the case.

Fan Break-down

All case fans are Coolermaster 120mm R4s / Dark Knight with stock fan
All case fans controlled by a Sunbeam Rheobus
Coolermaster Cosmos Case

1 Rear Exhaust 120mm -full power
2 Top Exhaust 120mm -half power
2 Bottom Intake 120mm (I removed bottom HHD bays and modded a 120mm on radbox intake) - full power
1 Top Front Intake 120mm (under optical) full power

All intakes are filtered.


I mounted the the TX750W with the fan pointing down to allow the 140mm exhaust fan to blow out of the case.
I also put a spare Silverstone 120mm fan in place to draw air from the front intake and push it to the Dark Knight. (I think this was the difference maker)

Well I get everything put back in order and boot up and I am surprised by my BIOS temp reading of 37C but, I don't think much of it because I know it has been off for some time. When I get into 7 and load CoreTemp, I notice that idle is still 38C so I run Prime to see what I get. (3.8 @ 1.20) My temps never break 60C during an hour of Prime. (CPUZ 1.18V idle / 1.21V load) Needless to say, I am very pleased with this. My first reaction is to take it to 4.0 so, I reboot and do just that. I take the BCLK to 191 and reboot.
Idle is around 39C and Prime runs at 68C after 2 hours with 0 errors.
So, I decided to give it a real life benchmark by running my -smp client on it and was thrilled when the temps never reached 65C and I let it run for 7 hours overnight and only turned it off when a bad storm came through. It was still bouncing between 64-65C after an all night fold.

GRANTED, I haven't booted up yet today and I don't know what surprises I left for me to discover but, all in do time.

phone pic below shows it all cleaned up, with the addition of the Silverstone in the bay.
I'm glad to see your temps back down. Good work!

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Originally Posted by Vonkeonig View Post
I want to jion please! =]
Added and welcome!

Quote:
Originally Posted by r2tbone View Post
Screen from last night, I wish I would have gotten one of this morning.
Great stuff!
post #119 of 3836
Just thought I would post up my latest quick stability testing, and settings @ 4.2Ghz, for anyone using 980X with this board.

1.344 Idle/Load = Zero Vdroop (Using LLC Level 1) Could go lower likely, no time to test right now though.

BIOS F7e

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Code:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [25x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x44
Uncore Frequency ..........................  x22
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 168
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Extreme]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x10]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual - Expert]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ...................... 7
tRCD ....................................... 8
tRP ......................................... 7 
tRAS ....................................... 20


* No time to tweak advanced settings yet, all Auto except tRFC, and B2B CAS Delay *

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................Auto
tRRD ....................................... Auto
tWTR ...................................... Auto
tWR ........................................ Auto
tWTP ....................................... Auto
tWL ........................................ Auto
tRFC ....................................... 88
tRTP ....................................... Auto
tFAW ...................................... Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1T

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ................... Auto

B2B CAS Delay .......................... 4



Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled - Level 1]
CPU Vcore ............................... 1.375
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.355
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... 1.8

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.5
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... 1.2
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... 1.16
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... 1.5
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ 1.14

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

Edited by lsdmeasap - 4/26/10 at 4:33am
    
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post #120 of 3836
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Originally Posted by lsdmeasap View Post
Just thought I would post up my latest quick stability testing, and settings @ 4.2Ghz, for anyone using 980X with this board.

1.344 Idle/Load = Zero Vdroop (Using LLC Level 1) Could go lower likely, no time to test right now though.

BIOS F7e

Click to Enlarge



Code:
Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [25x]
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Link Speed .............................. x44
Uncore Frequency ..........................  x22
Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 168
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


Advanced DRAM Features:
Performance Enhance ...................... [Extreme]
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x10]
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual - Expert]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ...................... 7
tRCD ....................................... 8
tRP ......................................... 7 
tRAS ....................................... 20


* No time to tweak advanced settings yet, all Auto except tRFC, and B2B CAS Delay *

##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................Auto
tRRD ....................................... Auto
tWTR ...................................... Auto
tWR ........................................ Auto
tWTP ....................................... Auto
tWL ........................................ Auto
tRFC ....................................... 88
tRTP ....................................... Auto
tFAW ...................................... Auto
Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1T

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
Round Trip Latency ................... Auto

B2B CAS Delay .......................... 4



Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled - Level 1]
CPU Vcore ............................... 1.375
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.355
CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... 1.8

MCH/ICH
PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.5
QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... 1.2
IOH Core 1.100v ..................... 1.16
ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... 1.5
ICH Core 1.1v ........................ 1.14

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.66
DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
Looking good. Thanks!

Updated OP for BIOS Beta F7E 22 March 2010
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