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I unplugged all usb devices and it still won't boot through, but I can boot into safe mode. This is probably a driver thing. How would I go about troubleshooting those drivers though.. Sorry for going so off topic guys!!
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Is that with or without the short? I mean do you get that normally, or only when you short the MAIN BIOS?



That's probably not necessary, but check it out I suppose.

What caused this to happen at first anyway?

If you are worried about getting a Rev. 2 back from RMA, which is a high possibility, then you could send it to me and I could try and get it going if you want.

All up to you, just thought I'd offer to help by having a look in case you don't want to RMA just yet.

@ imadedend

Are you using a USB Keyboard? Try a boot without the keyboard all together and see if that helps, if it does try another with a different keyboard or a PS/2 keyboard.
F6 is what I was getting in both situations "with and without" the short.

I really appreciate the offer to look at it, but I am super busy and I'm sure you are too. I think I diagnosed it pretty well. I'll leave it up to Giga to take care of it now. It will ship out today.

I was testing for high BCLK with a PCI card and IDE drive to see where I need to raise PCI-E and only got to 230 bclk and had to stop testing as something came up.
The next day I had a friend over who needed his EP45-UD3P repaired so I took the UD7 off the bench and put his on it to test.
After testing I put the UD7 back on and no boooty for me.
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I unplugged all usb devices and it still won't boot through, but I can boot into safe mode. This is probably a driver thing. How would I go about troubleshooting those drivers though.. Sorry for going so off topic guys!!
Remove/uninstall any software related to the keyboard while in safe mode, then use a PS2 keyboard. It seems you are having a driver conflict. This is why we tried boot-logging, so you could find out what driver was jacking-up the process.

Once you've completed the above you should still boot using boot-logging so you can see how the process goes, and if it still hangs on a specific driver then you can tackle that one. For information on a specific driver (say it says "khci.sys") you can go to another computer and Google it and you will get results that tell you what it is and if it is critical.
Edited by kmss1 - 11/19/10 at 11:12am
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F6 is what I was getting in both situations "with and without" the short.

I really appreciate the offer to look at it, but I am super busy and I'm sure you are too. I think I diagnosed it pretty well. I'll leave it up to Giga to take care of it now. It will ship out today.

I was testing for high BCLK with a PCI card and IDE drive to see where I need to raise PCI-E and only got to 230 bclk and had to stop testing as something came up.
The next day I had a friend over who needed his EP45-UD3P repaired so I took the UD7 off the bench and put his on it to test.
After testing I put the UD7 back on and no boooty for me.
Thanks, Since you get that in both situations I think maybe you are not getting the short done properly.

Did you try both pin methods? When you tried 4+7 did you hold the short past the second reboot until you saw the splash screen?

And were you sure it was shorted, sounds like maybe it wasn't since you get the same outcome?

Ya I am busy, but I figured I could easily make time to tinker with a board for a fellow Gigabyte'r. Just thought I could maybe save you some hassles, but I guess that could possibly end up being more shipping for nothing so you may be best off to send it in.

Hopefully they will give you the same Rev. or the same repaired board back!

Sorry to hear about this, hopefully you get it all sorted out smoothly!

@ imadedend

As mentioned above, boot into windows however you can and uninstall the keyboard drivers and all software for it.

If the problem persists you can go into MSconfig and look for any keyboard drivers still loading for that, or any related software and disable it then test.
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Thanks, Since you get that in both situations I think maybe you are not getting the short done properly.

Did you try both pin methods? When you tried 4+7 did you hold the short past the second reboot until you saw the splash screen?

And were you sure it was shorted, sounds like maybe it wasn't since you get the same outcome?

Ya I am busy, but I figured I could easily make time to tinker with a board for a fellow Gigabyte'r. Just thought I could maybe save you some hassles, but I guess that could possibly end up being more shipping for nothing so you may be best off to send it in.

Hopefully they will give you the same Rev. or the same repaired board back!

Sorry to hear about this, hopefully you get it all sorted out smoothly!
I thought may be I was not doing it right as well, but several times it booted a little differant so I could tell it was shorting but never got far enough to get into BIOS.
I not too worried about it, i was getting ready for a benching contest but not a priority.
I hope they tell me what is wrong though I doubt they will.
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@ NoGuru

Too bad that Gigabyte does not use removable EPROM BIOS chips as your UD7 has dual BIOS you would be able to just swap chips and try to boot with a previous BIOS ver.

Hope you get that sorted out prob. free and do what you do best..

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the shorting was essentially doing that, booting to his backup bios, which seemed to not work. i think its more of a hardware problem, or maybe you zapped the sucker when you moved it. I personally have never killed a board that way because i use anti-static gloves and mat and i touch my case that is hooked to my psu. I hate having to get things fixed that worked perfectly, i always feel like its going to work worse when i get it back.

Anyways good luck, i hope you get the same board back soon.

@ the guy with the driver problem, the best way to clean up your system is to reinstall it.
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the shorting was essentially doing that, booting to his backup bios, which seemed to not work. i think its more of a hardware problem, or maybe you zapped the sucker when you moved it. I personally have never killed a board that way because i use anti-static gloves and mat and i touch my case that is hooked to my psu. I hate having to get things fixed that worked perfectly, i always feel like its going to work worse when i get it back.

Anyways good luck, i hope you get the same board back soon.

@ the guy with the driver problem, the best way to clean up your system is to reinstall it.
@ Sin: He has already reloaded, but he is having some strange conflicts. I do agree that a reload is the best way to clean it up, but I was trying to help him find the offending drivers first, before he reloads.

BTW - Another good solution for anti-static is to wear the blue Nitrile exam gloves. They can be bought pretty cheap on eBay for a 100ct pack, or if you know somebody that works in a doctors office they can probably bring you a couple pair (be sure to get the Large or XLarge if you have average size mens hand, the Medium are for smaller mens hands).
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I don't want to create more work but I was thinking it might be a good option to have an idle/max temp on the spreadsheet.
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i work in the medical field and i have so many boxes of those gloves, i have never tried using them for that purpose though, my gloves for my computer are specifically anti-static, but maybe the nitrile ones work well too.

I'll see what i can do, so now many people, how about next to THE HT,Vcore, QPI, you also put your temps there. put up screen shots with that kind of data.
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