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That looks right to me. I use the bios. I've only ever used EZ-tune to check voltages.....
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That looks right to me. I use the bios. I've only ever used EZ-tune to check voltages.....

What do you think I can do to lower the temp / increase the juice?
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What do you think I can do to lower the temp / increase the juice?

More Juice=more heat. I think you are at the thresh hold of your cooler. I would not let the chip get any hotter, and you won't notice much of a difference in a few mhz..
If you wanted to make the 4 Ghz mark just add a little vcore and/or QPI and you should be good.
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What NoGuru said... AFAIK a single GPU Graphics card's scores and fps are as good as it gets around 4GHz anyway.
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What NoGuru said... AFAIK a single GPU Graphics card's scores and fps are as good as it gets around 4GHz anyway.

Got ya, what are your opinions on the next upgrade path for the system? The GTX 460 is overclocked by about 10% but I still get bottlenecks in large scenes in Skyrim. Is the GTX 460 a bad card? I got the card for $160 at a closeout 2 years ago and every other game I play it does a great job. I figure if my CPU is doing 4 - 4.15 GHZ at 50-60C non load and 70-85C 100% load, will I have a large performance increase upgrading the CPU? Based off your response and online, it seems that only an SSD Hard drive (loading times), and a faster GPU would make a big difference.

I guess in a way I am rambling, I just was hoping the CPU was the issue, not the GPU. I do have to say though that there was a noticeable improvement on the game when I bumped the proc from 2.8ghz to 4ghz. It was a NOTICEABLE difference. What are your thoughts? Any testing I can do to see what is my achilles heal?

Lastly, Ram wise, does it make sense to play with it at all, or is the performance increase negligible? Should I focus now on seeing if I can use a lower Vcore / QPI to reduce heat? How can I throttle the CPU now to lower the MHZ when it is not at full load?
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Tried using same settings from memory but found it very hard to get a boot out of it without going even higher than before Volts wise.
So question number one, is the 24GB of RAM making it harder to OC my CPU?

With 24GiB you may need to reduce uncore speed or increase QPI/VTT levels, as well as loosen some sub-timings. tRFC in particular is very important if you are using two DIMMs per channel. You will likely need to increase tRFC by 20-50 cycles.
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Edit: this is directed at dpoverloard

How much RAM do you have? The mhz of the RAM will not be that noticable in a upgrade but could make the slightest diffrance.

I think the most noticable boost of performance is an SSD. It's nice to put the OS on one but nesacery, so if you want Skyrim to load faster, grab an SSD and put the game on it,

As far as the GPU go's, the 460 is not a bad card but I bet you are getting somewhat low frames with Skyrim so you might want to consider a 570 or 580 now that prices have dropped a bit.
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For games, I think 6GB is enough. The only place I really notice a difference with faster RAM is in benchmarks...and I suspect large amounts of RAM are not a big help in games. The 460 is a good card. Two of them are equal to a 580. You can only run a pair though. Only one SLI finger to a card. Your PSU should be good enough for that.

You won't see big gains from clocking the cpu more with just one GPU, but if you have two cards you will. The thing there is you'd need better cpu cooling, probably water, and that can cost as much as a good GPU....lol, a "choose your trade off" situation. If you get a single 580, no need to oc more...or 680, or a 7970...

Last gen dual GPU cards like 590 or 6990 would probably outperform the new cards, and benefit from higher CPU clocks... Gains above 4GHz are harder to come by though, more effort required, unless you go Sandy or Ivy....Welcome to the vicious upgrade cycle......
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For games, I think 6GB is enough. The only place I really notice a difference with faster RAM is in benchmarks...and I suspect large amounts of RAM are not a big help in games. The 460 is a good card. Two of them are equal to a 580. You can only run a pair though. Only one SLI finger to a card. Your PSU should be good enough for that.
You won't see big gains from clocking the cpu more with just one GPU, but if you have two cards you will. The thing there is you'd need better cpu cooling, probably water, and that can cost as much as a good GPU....lol, a "choose your trade off" situation. If you get a single 580, no need to oc more...or 680, or a 7970...
Last gen dual GPU cards like 590 or 6990 would probably outperform the new cards, and benefit from higher CPU clocks... Gains above 4GHz are harder to come by though, more effort required, unless you go Sandy or Ivy....Welcome to the vicious upgrade cycle......

100%, I guess the only two paths are GPU then SSD. I just transferred SKyrim to one of my HD's and boot times have sky rocketed, the main hangups tend to be when you enter a new area and the system bogs down. The only solution mainly would be a new GPU. I am currently running at a BCLK of 192 and 4.035 GHZ. I will try O/C the GPU a bit, otherwise the only path is a new GPU.

What I do want to do though is downthrottle the CPU when I am not doing anything. There is no reason for me to be at 4 GHZ when I am not doing anything but browsing the web. Any ideas on that one?

thanks for all the help! I will reconfirm the new bios settings in a seperate post.
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This works OK up to and including 4.2GHz
Enable CPU EIST
CPU Vcore set to "NORMAL"
Dynamic Vcore (DVID) set to + what you need to get your previous vcore back. IIRC it won't be a simple calculation but trial and error. When I first did this I assumed that it would be simple arithhmetic, but when I read vcore in Windows it was much higher than expected, so I lowered it until my reading in Windows matched what I'd been using previously.

Someone else might know the real way to calculate what it would be, but that was my rough act approach....redface.gif
That way your cpu speed will raise and lower to match demand IIRC
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