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Wow, this definitely gives me food for thought, how reliable are Samsung drives though? I tend to stick to WD just because of their reliability. Since the 890FX chipset is due out at the end of this month, I'm starting to seriously consider that choice instead also. Do you have any suggestions on sources to read up on the 890FX? I'm googling it but if you have a great one of the top of your head, that'd be awesome too. Thanks for everyone's help so far! I really appreciate it!
I can't really comment on the reliability of the Samsung F3's having not experienced them myself, all I would say is I've not read any negative reports regarding them.

As for the 890FX info, I just did a quick search and found some info about upcoming boards (links below), but I didn't come across any benchmarks or comparisons unfortunately.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...motherboards/1

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...herboards.html
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I just installed some Samsung F3's in a friends system and they worked great.

I however have always liked Western Digital so their Caviar Black 640GB are my pick if you are going to raid. Short stroking them further increases their performance as you will rarely need a 1.1TB OS drive. Newegg routinely has these no sale as well as the Samsung F3's so get whatever is a better deal at the time for both.

Regarding your AMD MB combo, if you live near a Fry's they REGULARLY have sales on Phenom Black / GIga MB combos that are ridiculously cheap (well under $200 for both) so I recommend you check for Friday ads on these sales if possible. Save yourself some mega cash.

Finally regarding the graphics card; you would be doing yourself a disservice if you bought a 5670 on the logic of not having to connect a single PCI-E power cable to it . Any power supply out there no matter how overrated its advertising is, should have more than enough juice to power a single 5770. Its only a few bucks more than the 5670 and a much better card. The 5770 are very efficient graphics cards power wise. Even this fantastically well made (really - no sarcasm) $35 Corsair PSU will power it plenty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-008-_-Product

Now regarding the "well you should get a bigger psu in the event you want to go crossfire / SLI later on" argument. From my experience, by the time you NEED to crossfire a graphics card to play the latest games, there is much more efficient single card out there that will blow away your SLI / crossfire that will still be cheaper (net present value calculation wise) buying it 2-3 years later on. Food for thought.

Oh an just so you know, my outdated single 4870 can play absolutely everything out there today (ME2, Dragon Age Origins, L4D2) with all settings maxed on 1920x1200. THe only exception to that is Crysis, which is a whole other forum post in itself. That 5770 will keep you very happy for years to come, I promise you.
Edited by Mark the Bold - 4/7/10 at 11:26am
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I didn't have the cash when I built mine so I have two WD blue's instead of blacks. Performance wise, I think they suit me fine. Just throwing a suggestion out there in case you were short on cash but still want some performance.
Thanks! Shockingly, the Samsung F3s mentioned earlier are the same price as the Greens anyway.
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I can't really comment on the reliability of the Samsung F3's having not experienced them myself, all I would say is I've not read any negative reports regarding them.

As for the 890FX info, I just did a quick search and found some info about upcoming boards (links below), but I didn't come across any benchmarks or comparisons unfortunately.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...motherboards/1

http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...herboards.html
Those are actually the same links I found. Hopefully we'll have some more conclusive info on the boards soon. I'm wary of going with the 890FX-GD70 since the 790FX-GD70 didn't perform as well as it should have, with the GA-790FXTA-UD5 having USB 3.0 and SATA III also.

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I just installed some Samsung F3's in a friends system and they worked great.

I however have always liked Western Digital so their Caviar Black 640GB are my pick if you are going to raid. Short stroking them further increases their performance as you will rarely need a 1.1TB OS drive. Newegg routinely has these no sale as well as the Samsung F3's so get whatever is a better deal at the time for both.

Regarding your AMD MB combo, if you live near a Fry's they REGULARLY have sales on Phenom Black / GIga MB combos that are ridiculously cheap (well under $200 for both) so I recommend you check for Friday ads on these sales if possible. Save yourself some mega cash.

Finally regarding the graphics card; you would be doing yourself a disservice if you bought a 5670 on the logic of not having to connect a single PCI-E power cable to it . Any power supply out there no matter how overrated its advertising is, should have more than enough juice to power a single 5770. Its only a few bucks more than the 5670 and a much better card. The 5770 are very efficient graphics cards power wise. Even this fantastically well made (really - no sarcasm) $35 Corsair PSU will power it plenty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-008-_-Product

Now regarding the "well you should get a bigger psu in the event you want to go crossfire / SLI later on" argument. From my experience, by the time you NEED to crossfire a graphics card to play the latest games, there is much more efficient single card out there that will blow away your SLI / crossfire that will still be cheaper (net present value calculation wise) buying it 2-3 years later on. Food for thought.

Oh an just so you know, my outdated single 4870 can play absolutely everything out there today (ME2, Dragon Age Origins, L4D2) with all settings maxed on 1920x1200. THe only exception to that is Crysis, which is a whole other forum post in itself. That 5770 will keep you very happy for years to come, I promise you.
I'll keep that in mind about the HDDs. Actually, I have just come across the whole concept of short-stroking. More research and learning FTW!

Unfortunately, I live nowhere near a Fry's. I live in MO. I'll do a little research into the 5770s now that I have that input.

This forum continues to exceed my expectations! Thank you all! Keep the discussion going! I'm learning.

New question for the group: Is there a specific GPU brand I should be going for on the 5770 that outperforms the others?
Edited by Valderag - 4/7/10 at 11:54am
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New question for the group: Is there a specific GPU brand I should be going for on the 5770 that outperforms the others?
There are factory overclocked versions of the graphics card such as the XFX XXX models and the Sapphire Vapour-X models, they will outperform a gpu at stock clocks.

The Vapour-X cards are very good, with upgraded cooling on them too, but brands such as Sapphire, Asus and XFX are generally regarded as the better vendors of ATi cards.
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There are factory overclocked versions of the graphics card such as the XFX XXX models and the Sapphire Vapour-X models, they will outperform a gpu at stock clocks.

The Vapour-X cards are very good, with upgraded cooling on them too, but brands such as Sapphire, Asus and XFX are generally regarded as the better vendors of ATi cards.
Thanks for the insight. I've never known which brands were considered to be better than the others. Now it basically comes down to the XFX XXX for $179.99 with a free copy of Battleforge (does anybody know if this game is any good?) or $174.99 for the Sapphire Vapor-X. I guess I'll have to sacrifice $55 that was going towards the 2nd HDD to make up for this cost difference, then get the 2nd Samsung F3 when I can. I hope it isn't too much of a pain in the ass to reformat and install the 2nd HDD into a RAID 0 setup after using the first one by itself for a while.
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So after doing some research, I'm deciding to go with the Vapor-X 5770, although now I'm coming across stuff that is saying that the 4890s are still better cards. This is aggravating, but oh well. I need DX11 to future-proof this system. So, the specs have been updated in my sig to coincide with the suggestions of the posters. Thanks to everyone, I shall update this thread if anything else in this build changes, such as deciding on an 890FX board. I'll also eventually update this with pictures of the build as it goes. I'll continue to watch this thread in the mean time if anyone else has any other feedback to offer!
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So after doing some research, I'm deciding to go with the Vapor-X 5770, although now I'm coming across stuff that is saying that the 4890s are still better cards. This is aggravating, but oh well. I need DX11 to future-proof this system. So, the specs have been updated in my sig to coincide with the suggestions of the posters. Thanks to everyone, I shall update this thread if anything else in this build changes, such as deciding on an 890FX board. I'll also eventually update this with pictures of the build as it goes. I'll continue to watch this thread in the mean time if anyone else has any other feedback to offer!
I'm glad to hear you have found the funds needed to go with the 5770, you won't regret that decision, its a far superior card to the 5670 you originally planned on getting.
The 4890's are great cards too, and they will probably perform pretty close to a 5770, but as you said you may aswell go with the DX11 card make your system last.
Looking forward to seeing your build pics...all you'll need to do then is put a nice 24" LCD monitor on your future upgrades list .

EDIT: Just come across this deal on the forum, its a really good price, you could Xfire them for less than the price of a 5770!...Definately worth looking into!
http://www.overclock.net/online-deal...0-69-99-a.html
Edited by Jay Scott - 4/9/10 at 12:16pm
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Of course, as I make that post, Newegg does a sale on the XFX XXX for $169.99... the same price for XFX's other 1GB 5770 offering. So, who knows. I guess I'll just go with whichever is a better price at the time. Can't wait to get my tax return!

Hmm, I do believe this thread is going to turn into an actual build log soon. I should post pics of what I have now when I get a second.
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