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I just revisited this thread and thought that some of you guys needed reminding that AMD's socket AM2 has a 1333MHz FSB (although they don't call it an FSB) and their Windsor and Orleans cores are going to be 65nm.

And I totally agree with that comment on CPU tech stagnating, I mean graphics cards have been doubling in performance every generation PLUS we now have CrossFire, SLI, SLI x16 and even QUAD SLI, as if our GPUs were the problem back when I got my P4 530 in June 2004 it was top dog (as far as the 500 series, I know the 530 was bottom of the 5xx series) and they already had the 570 3.8GHz, today there is nothing faster than the 3.8 from Intel and all they have accomplished is added another meg of L2 cache and created their 6xx line. Now this is not considering the dual cores which are also kind of stagnating but Presler is a move in the right direction for sure.
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I personally believe that with this (Conroe) architecture Intel moves to parity with AMD. Intel has not dealt with the legacy memory controller issue and still is relying on the memory controller (which handles data communication between the CPU and RAM) being situated in the Northbridge. Until Intel moves this controller onto the processor die they will not be able to surpass AMD to any great degree.

AMD's next architecture (.65nm) will show the Intel deficiency to an even greater degree. Intel’s new Conroe architecture vs AMD’s new architecture (when released) will show this view out in my opinion.

R
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Originally Posted by Ropey
I personally believe that with this (Conroe) architecture Intel moves to parity with AMD. Intel has not dealt with the legacy memory controller issue and still is relying on the memory controller (which handles data communication between the CPU and RAM) being situated in the Northbridge. Until Intel moves this controller onto the processor die they will not be able to surpass AMD to any great degree.

AMD's next architecture (.65nm) will show the Intel deficiency to an even greater degree. Intel’s new Conroe architecture vs AMD’s new architecture (when released) will show this view out in my opinion.

R

Ok, I think i can live another year or two...J/k
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ropey
I personally believe that with this (Conroe) architecture Intel moves to parity with AMD. Intel has not dealt with the legacy memory controller issue and still is relying on the memory controller (which handles data communication between the CPU and RAM) being situated in the Northbridge. Until Intel moves this controller onto the processor die they will not be able to surpass AMD to any great degree.

AMD's next architecture (.65nm) will show the Intel deficiency to an even greater degree. Intel’s new Conroe architecture vs AMD’s new architecture (when released) will show this view out in my opinion.

R
You're in for a surprise then. Conroe will be faster than anything else on the market for a little while.
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Not gonna happen, not with a shorter bus length. 4 ghz proved hard even for the old architecture with the longer bus length and is the whole reasoning they're scrapping the design. They simply couldn't hit higher speeds, so you have to work on efficiency (ops/cycle) instead.
Remember that this new CPU thingy is based on the 65nm process, so who knows how much you could overclock it!
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I say thank gawd for both companies.

Without AMD being the hungry young pup nipping at Intel's heels, they'd be more inclined to be even more bloated and stagnant than they are.

Having these two companies fighting over us is a good thing.
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post #37 of 40
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Originally Posted by Ropey
I personally believe that with this (Conroe) architecture Intel moves to parity with AMD. Intel has not dealt with the legacy memory controller issue and still is relying on the memory controller (which handles data communication between the CPU and RAM) being situated in the Northbridge. Until Intel moves this controller onto the processor die they will not be able to surpass AMD to any great degree.

AMD's next architecture (.65nm) will show the Intel deficiency to an even greater degree. Intel’s new Conroe architecture vs AMD’s new architecture (when released) will show this view out in my opinion.

R
Not necesarily. Simply sticking the memory controller on the die isnt gonna improve anything. It has to do with how well the memory controller is designed, and if Intel can design a good memory controller, it shoudnt be a problem as long as the FSB has sufficient bandwidth to feed it.
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post #38 of 40
then there is the question of how much bandwith it can actually output and all that stuff
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then there is the question of how much bandwith it can actually output and all that stuff
Well if its running at 1066MHz FSB thatll give it 6.8GB/s of bandwidth.
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Very nice!
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Ehhh, the Conroe will not support current mainboards because of the voltage regulator. It is designed to work with the 975X chipset, but motherboards are going to have to be updated with a new voltage regulator.
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