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Unable to connect 2 computers with crossover

post #1 of 13
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I've been trying for three days now to connect my two comps. Both have WinXP Pro, one has one NIC while the other has two onboard ones. I connect the two and run the network setup wizard but Only the one with the two NICs says it's connected while the other says it has limited or no connectivity. I've also tried manually setting the IPs, subnet and all that crap and the two comps say they're connected but they don't actually appear and I can't ping one with the other. I'm losing hope, I have no clue what to do.

Here's what I get in ipconfig

The main comp with the internet connection:


The other comp... I can't get a print screen from since it has no connection whatsoever. So here's what's written:

Windows IP configuration

Host name : dellden
Primary dns suffix:
Node type: unknown
IP routing enabled: no
WINS proxy enabled: no

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS suffix:
Desccription: 3Com etherlink XL 10/100 PCI etc.
Physical address: 00-04-76-9B-D4-90
Dhcp enabled: yes
Autoconfiguration enabled: yes
Autoconfiguration IP address: 169.254.243.119
Subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway:


Please help me figure this out!
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post #2 of 13
Are you trying to use "internet connection sharing"? If so, something's not working right. If not, then proceed below:

169.254.0.0 is not a valid IP address (it's a "network address"). You are trying to get IP addresses from DHCP, which you don't have. Go into the TCP/IP properties for each computer, and manually set the IP addresses.

Comp1: 192.168.1.10
Comp2: 192.168.1.11

Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

Default gateway: try 192.168.1.1 (won't really do anything)
DNS server: same deal as default gateway
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post #3 of 13
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I'd like to have internet sharing and general file sharing.
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post #4 of 13
what kind of cable are you using on there . or are going through a router
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post #5 of 13
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I'm jsut using a straight crossover cable between the two.

Ok, I've done what you said and both say they are connected but comp 1 is the only one sending packets, comp 2 shows that it's receiving something but it is not sending anything and comp 1 isnt showing anything received.

PS: now my main internet connection on comp 1 is cutting out, I had to disable the connection to comp 2 to make it work again
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post #6 of 13
I'm not trying to be a punk, but are you opposed to using a cheap wired router? It would be SO much easier.

Anyway, did you go through the internet connection sharing wizard on the NIC that the broadband connection is plugged into? It should have assigned an 192.168.x.x address to the second NIC, then turned on a DHCP server.
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post #7 of 13
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I might yet, but I had the cable so I wanted to try connecting them.

I tried the wizard and I said which one had the connection to the internet and which one had the connection to the other comp but it didn't work. The comp with 2 NICs said it was connected and the other said it had little or no connectivity.

After having tried what you said earlier, I'm able to ping one computer and the other will show incoming packets but it doesn't echo the ping so the comp that sent it shows 100% loss. This works this way with both comps.
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post #8 of 13
Are you using a software firewall, like the Windows firewall? This can definitely cause issues. If so, only firewall the NIC pointing to the Internet, and disable it on the 2nd NIC. Make sure it's turned OFF on the other PC.
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post #9 of 13
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Yep, both those firewalls concerned are down and I have no others.
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post #10 of 13
You are positive that you have a crossover cable?

One side:
white/orange
orange
white/green
blue
white/blue
green
white/brown
brown

Other side:
white/green
green
white/orange
blue
white/blue
orange
white/brown
brown

Also, make sure all the copper is pushed to the end of the RJ-45 connector
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